11,976

(88 replies, posted in Politics)

thank you soth, I thought CA was bad...now I feel better!

oh but of course we're kooks for having an "ideology" and an "agenda" instead of just being supportive of others and understanding their pain.  I await being labelled a social traitor for refusing to help their ponzi scheme work

11,977

(132 replies, posted in General)

holy crap you LIKE steel reserve??
dude I drank it to get drunk enough to fall asleep at noon...but like it???

11,978

(103 replies, posted in Politics)

[duplicate post--blackberry needs a holster]

11,979

(14 replies, posted in General)

19.  Belgians apparently aren't as well-equipped as Americans

11,980

(103 replies, posted in Politics)

no, Hitler lost for opposing TACTICAL retreats. (edit I mean ANY and ALL)

a tactical retreat is "mr president, I can't achieve your goals at this time"

a strategic retreat is "what the hell are we here for anyhow"

11,981

(132 replies, posted in General)

you should ask who makes it

oddly enough some Americans have changed it up so much their liquid shouldn't be called IPA anymore.  Go figure, I mean when have we ever done something like that?

11,982

(46 replies, posted in General)

If you like sweeping sci-fi CJ Cherryh is awesome, I think she has about four historical threads going.

Cyteen  and Downbelow Station show different sides of the three-way Human cultural split.  For the Chanur saga she leaves Human space altogether and shows how a feudal space-merchant clan deals with an escaped alien slave that begs for their help--some unknown species called a Human...

If you don't recognize Gwar's avatar go read "Watchmen" by Alan Moore before the movie comes out.  proof Moore is a twisted Mentat

cthulhu roleplayers will love "A Night in the Lonesome October" by Roger Zelazny.  See, Jack the Ripper wasn't a bad guy, he was saving humanity by closing the Gate...all he did was gather the necessary ingredients...

11,983

(132 replies, posted in General)

India Pale Ale
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A bottle of Fuller's IPAIndia Pale Ale, abbreviated IPA, is an ale that is light amber to copper in color, medium to medium-high alcohol by volume, with hoppy, bitter and sometimes malty flavor.[1] IPA is a style of beer that is usually included in the broader category of pale ale. It was first brewed in England in the 18th century. Today, IPA is a popular style of beer among American craft brewers.

Contents [hide]
1 History
1.1 Early IPA
1.2 Modern IPA
2 Double India Pale Ale
3 Notes
4 References



[edit] History

[edit] Early IPA
IPA descends from the earliest pale ales of the 17th century, when the term "pale ale" probably simply distinguished ales which were light in color compared with brown ales of that day.[2] By the mid-18th century, pale ale was mostly manufactured with coke-fired malt, which produced less smoking and roasting of barley in the malting process, and hence produced a paler beer.[3] Once such variety of beer was October beer, a pale well-hopped brew popular among the landed classes, who brewed it domestically; once brewed it was intended to cellar two years.[4]

The October beer of George Hodgson's Bow Brewery was the world's first India Pale Ale. Bow Brewery beers became popular among East India company traders in the late 18th century because of the brewery's location and Hodgson's liberal credit line of 18 months. East Indiamen transported a number of Hodgson's beers to India, among them his October beer, which benefited exceptionally from conditions of the voyage and was apparently highly regarded among consumers in India.[5] Bow Brewery came into control of Hodgson's sons in the early 19th century, but their business practices alienated their customers. During the same period, several Burton breweries lost their European export market in Russia because of new tariffs on beer, and were seeking a new export market for their beer. At the behest of the East India Company, Allsop brewery developed a strongly hopped pale ale in the style Hodgson's for export to India.[6] Other Burton brewers, including Bass and Salt, were anxious to replace their lost Russian export market and quickly followed Allsop's lead. Likely as a result of the advantages of Burton water in brewing,[7] Burton India Pale Ale was preferred by merchants and their customers in India.

Demand for the export style of pale ale, which had become known as "India Pale Ale," developed in England around 1840 and India Pale Ale became a popular product in England.[8] Some brewers dropped the term "India" in the late 19th century, but records indicated that these "pale ales" retained the features of earlier IPA.[9] American, Australian and Canadian brewers manufactured beer with the label IPA before 1900, and records suggest that these beers were similar to English IPA of the era.[10]

Hodgson's October beer style clearly influenced the Burton Brewers's India Pale Ale. His beer was only slightly higher in alcohol than most beer brewed in his day and would not have been considered a strong ale; however, a greater proportion of the wort was well-fermented, leaving behind few residual sugars, and the beer was strongly hopped.[11] The common story that early IPAs were much stronger than other beers of the time, however, is a myth.[12] Moreover, porter shipped to India at the same time survived the voyage, and common claims that Hodgson formulated his beer to survive the trip and that other beers would not survive the trip are probably false.[13] It is clear that by the 1860s, India Pale Ales were widely brewed in England and that the were much more attenuated and highly hopped than porters and many other ales.[14]


[edit] Modern IPA

The IPA style is now common in the United Kingdom; many beers labeled IPA in the UK are by and large indistinguishable from ordinary session bitters, for example Greene King IPA and Charles Wells Eagle IPA. Among the traditional examples still brewed are Meantime Brewery IPA, Young's Special London Ale, Dark Star IPA and Freeminer Trafalgar IPA.

In 2002, Caledonian Brewery 'Deuchars IPA' took the title of CAMRA Supreme Champion Beer of Britain at the GBBF in London. This was an IPA brewed in the modern weak APV style in the UK.

In New Zealand, Tui is the brand of a popular beer famous for advertising more than beer with the "Yeah, Right" line. It is said to be an IPA, though is in reality a lager brewed with an addition of sweet crystal malt. In Canada, Alexander Keith's India Pale Ale, brewed in Halifax from 1820, is popular, however, unlike its modern American cousins, it is not a true IPA but rather one which has been toned down for modern tastes and is by all accounts a basic lager. By contrast, Halifax's Propeller, Garrison, and Granite microbreweries produce excellent traditional IPAs. Other IPAs more reminiscent of the historical flavour are available from smaller breweries. There are also micro-breweries producing IPA in NZ, such as Peak Brewery, in Wairarapa, in the southern North Island.

In Israel there is an IPA from a microbrewery called Dancing Camel.

In Fremantle, Western Australia, the Sail and Anchor brewpub produces one of the best examples of craft brewed IPA.

In the USA, the original highly hopped and long aged (one full year in wood before bottling) Ballantine IPA was a beer of great distinction and a part of the Ballantine stable of brews since the early part of the 20th century. It now enjoys a legendary status despite the fact that it ceased being brewed to its original formula in the 1980s, and has not been brewed at all since the mid 90's. Within the USA, there is even a distinct type of IPA called the "West Coast IPA," which goes for a much more bitter, hoppy character than other IPAs, although the east coast brewed and Ballantine IPA was just as highly hopped as(and in some cases, more highly hopped tan) as many so called "West Coast" IPAs.

There has since the early 1980s been a movement to true Craft Brewing, where "real" IPA (a term open to wide interpretation) has been the goal; in fact, the once relatively rare style has become very commonplace. At least partly because of Ballantine IPA's legendary status in American brewing, the style has been attempted in recent years by numerous microbrewers. Among the dozens of current attempts at the tradition is the Hurricane IPA of Storm Brewing.

In the USA, IPA has gradually evolved into a distinct variant sometimes called American India Pale Ale (A few examples are Anchor Brewing's Liberty Ale, Lagunitas Brewing's IPA, Victory Brewing Company's HopDevil Ale, Hop Ottin IPA by Anderson Valley Brewing Co., Hoptical Illusion by Blue Point Brewing Co., Two Hearted Ale by Bells Brewery, and Stone Brewing Company's Stone IPA). Although some are made to traditional recipes, many American IPAs are brewed with citric American hop varieties such as Cascade, Chinook, Centennial, and Columbus. For example, Lost Coast's INDICA IPA which uses Columbus, Cascade, Willamette and Chinook hops. A few American brewers have also altered the style to increase the bitterness of the beer to well over 100 IBUs and the alcohol levels up to 10 or even more than 20% alcohol by volume. It should be noted that examples this "extreme" are generally referred to as Double or Imperial IPAs, though some argue that they are not IPAs at all but rather an entirely separate style.


[edit] Double India Pale Ale

Double India Pale Ales (also abbreviated as Double IPAs or IIPAs) are a strong, very hoppy style of pale beer. Also known as Imperial IPAs, perhaps in reference to the Russian Imperial Stout, a much stronger version of the English Stout, these beers are essentially India Pale Ales with higher amounts of malt and hops. Double IPAs typically have alcohol content above 7% by volume. IBUs are in the very high range (60+). Such "style" labels can seem arbitrary however, since the aforementioned Ballantine IPA in its original formulation was certainly well above these benchmarks.

There are some brewers that believe the name should be San Diego Pale Ale, since the style most likely started near San Diego, CA [15] -- specifically a Double IPA brewed in 1994 by Vinnie Cilurzo[1] of the failed Blind Pig Brewing Company of Temecula, CA[citation needed]. Vinnie claims he "accidentally" created the style by adding 50% too much malt to his mash tun. He then "corrected" this mistake by adding 100% more hops. This metric (50% more malt, 100% more hops) is the basic guideline behind the style.

Ales Brewed in Northern California such as Lagunitas' Maximus IPA, Bear Republic's Racer 5, as well as others in the San Diego area have taken to the double IPA style, including Stone Brewing Company, Oggi's Brewery, Alpine Brewery, Alesmith, Ballast Brewing Company, and Port Brewing Company, etc. However, others attribute the creation of this style to the Rogue Ales, a microbrewery in Newport, Oregon, and its I2PA beer, brewed in 1990. [2]

Many of the stronger DIPAs could be alternately classified as American barleywines or Triple IPA's. As a relatively young style, it is still being determined. It is one of the fastest growing styles in the craft beer industry, and a favorite among hopheads.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India_Pale_Ale

hmm, guess I've had the "Double" variety, it was too hoppy and strong for my liking

11,984

(103 replies, posted in Politics)

Yeah, and Hitler was right, the guys who think up that one belong in a soup line.

11,985

(103 replies, posted in Politics)

Sorry. If I win I might lose my fixed address or the subscription might go out of business.

I meant Global Respect = Money paid OUT, yeah if it were money coming in we'd have to look at it tongue but saying things like "the world expects American leadership on blablabla" means the world a) wants us to pay the lion's share and b) wants the US govt to prohibt and/or oppressively regulate and/or oppressively tax American free enterprise from exploiting foriegn bans,regulations and taxes. We are NOT a world community, our democracy is a fraud if the sovereign authority is an unelected global bureacracy.

I dont know what "proof" is required. Obama married a woman who spits bile at the USA, she's on video saying she wasnt proud of the USA for 30 years until Barack's campaign. Barack spent 20 years in a church where the pastor damned America, there is video of that from the Church itself, it sold that sermon. Barack sat on the board witterrorist who said in 2001 he was sorry they didnt do more, he also let Ayers host Obama fundraisers in his home with Obama attending. How many politicians would come to your home if YOU invited them.

So you say its a gimmick, Barack doesnt support these people?  Then he's unfit to be President. Heard about the con man from the former USSR who made a campaign contribution to Clinton and got a photo shaking his hand? He went back home and raised millions to build an American pipeline--he had the connections, here, look!  And thats benign compared to the kooks who will shape US policy from within. You dont hang out with people you dont know.

Its because i dont think Barack is quite that dumb that I suspect his motives. Ive walked away from churches where I didnt like the tone, and I'm Catholic.

Oh, he's a traitor for voting to lose a war and working behind the scenes to undermine the Iraq deployment agreement with Baghdad so he can lose the war as President.   Thats aid and comfort to our enemy,  Al Qaeda. It's treason.

11,986

(103 replies, posted in Politics)

You'll find out...

"Global respect" = $$$

11,987

(8 replies, posted in General)

My first thought was to page BW and Acolyte

But something tells me they lasted this long by leaving no trails for the missus to find

11,988

(103 replies, posted in Politics)

Right, she had a valid argument to fire the guy but she enjoyed it too much I guess

I suppose Alaskan governors should strangle their siblings and their kids, like Ottoman Sultans, to avoid such troubles

Some radio show hosts were lolling that to McCain an Arab is the opposite of a family man ans a decent human being

But Barack is a traitor and surrounds himself with people who hate America, his pastor his wife and his bomber pal Ayres. Thats the fact and no election can bleach that stain. As you'll find out when blubberin Juan McCain loses, and Obama becomes the most hated President in US history.

11,989

(134 replies, posted in Politics)

Back in the late 1970s Chrysler got a bailout from the US govt

Carter and Congress couldnt stand to see so many layoffs

11,990

(134 replies, posted in Politics)

Another Chrysler deal?  This is where I came in

11,991

(134 replies, posted in Politics)

Uh huh. Of course we must tax our way out!

Rate of spending grew about twice as fast as our population growth...

Sacramento Democrats hold fast to the great lie of the Liberals--a decrease in the rate of growth is a "cut"---"you CUT education! Health care! Free condoms! Infrastructure!" It grew by 8% in a boom year, if it gets $105 billion instead of $108 billion this year it was CUT by $3 billion!!!!!! Blah

Hospitals are a must school football is a must so is adult education, new street lights, DSL all over the state, raises for state workers no cuts are possible everything must grow

Oh and the illegals are heading back to Mexico, state agencies like schools that got paid by the head have fewer heads

And the taxes we already have are bringing in less, fewer sales and houses arent worth as much

And finally esa, if Mr Jones moves to Idaho and pays not one centavo to Sacramento he still speaks english and has the Bill of Rights and earns dollars--and has less crime and cleaner air and less traffic. So Sacramento cant tax like the US govt-- people WILL vote with their feet--under Gray Davis just six years ago Population SHRANK in this state...

11,992

(132 replies, posted in General)

Arrogant Bastard Ale is good, strong on the hops

Their Imperial stout is awesome but its seasonal

Sam adams does great beer especially honey lager and boston lager

Mexico makes good beers, served cold like Modela Negra and Dos Equis

Roast the malt Wouter, open a whole new world tongue

Ps me, an arrogant bastard? yikes

11,993

(53 replies, posted in General)

Hockey needs improvement...how about guys on motorbikes trying to run over the players

Of course AL pitching is great, their pitchers are WELL RESTED they only work half the game

11,994

(134 replies, posted in Politics)

GM is probably worth ten times what is now, if I had a thousand shares every dollar it went up would make me $1000

And I'm sorry to say it is because GM has political clout the Congress or the state governments it operates in will give it the loans to keep operating. No matter what.

Dumbasses can't keep a sense of proportion...Suppose GM went under and filed Chapter 11? Thats a reorganization bankruptcy, the Court decides what creditors get paid and how much while GM still sells cars. After a few years the Court wraps that up ans GM goes on as usual.

Suppose GM cant afford that and some creditor files a hostile chapter 7 dissolution bankruptcy. Then its assets are sold off. Perhaps some other carmaker would like some first-rate factories with a ready workforce?  Maybe not, the way Michigan thinks it can tax its way out of recession-- but there's an obvious answer to that too.

The current plan to bailout everybody "too big to fail" is that the govt becomes a partner in failure. CA is nearly there, we're offering $4 billion in bond sales against next July, tax free, and not finding takers. Everybody knows our state is on the brink of default, nobody trusts it even that far. We're actually living month to month here, and with the recession coming that won't last.

That's inevitable when the state is treated like a bottomless pile of gold. But saying so is just "ideology".

11,995

(53 replies, posted in General)

AL is where all great NL pitchers go to retire

BTW for those of you who don't know, in the NL which is the classic form of baseball all 9 players who play defense come up and swing a bat

AL the pitcher gets to rest while a designated batter takes his place on the lineup for batting

but since they put in the wildcard  playoffs it all sucks anyhow

11,996

(134 replies, posted in Politics)

I'd buy 1000 shares of GM if I had $5000

11,997

(9,083 replies, posted in General)

clearly pwned me yikes

/me feels like I got devoured by unseen demons in front of a jeering crowd

11,998

(53 replies, posted in General)

maybe if all the members of an American league team had to bat?

11,999

(290 replies, posted in Politics)

um no thank you CNN, for taking afree news source and putting in 30 sec ads

12,000

(6 replies, posted in Politics)

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aP5mpMUORBWM

can the global economy collapse faster than Berlusconi can steal?