Re: Favorite beer.
never had ca beers???
http://www.bevmo.com/Shop/ProductList.aspx?N=41+4294967166+4294967209&area=beer&Ns=HighestRating%7c1
Stone Brewing Co = awesome beery goodness ![]()
in fact I want one now ![]()
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.
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never had ca beers???
http://www.bevmo.com/Shop/ProductList.aspx?N=41+4294967166+4294967209&area=beer&Ns=HighestRating%7c1
Stone Brewing Co = awesome beery goodness ![]()
in fact I want one now ![]()
"2. Wouter you know Mexico makes some great lagers the old way and California has better stouts than Belgium, which tries to cover up by insisting dark beers arent necessary."
We have loads of dark beers Chris..
@avogadro, Duchesse is nothing special if you ask me..
Oh, and westmalle is indeed quite widely spread, I just named a few you could find easily..
Rodenbach for sunny daaaays,
Leffe brown for evenings in a dark pub. ![]()
hmm, i was looking at Stone Brewing Co's site. looks like they have a arrogant bastard ale; looks like they know The_Yell intimately.
Arrogant Bastard Ale is good, strong on the hops
Their Imperial stout is awesome but its seasonal
Sam adams does great beer especially honey lager and boston lager
Mexico makes good beers, served cold like Modela Negra and Dos Equis
Roast the malt Wouter, open a whole new world ![]()
Ps me, an arrogant bastard? ![]()
well, went to my favorite restaurant which happens to have a very good selection of beer. i had a Orval and a Chimay Blue there. they also had Rochefort 8 and Rochefort 10; is one better then the other? could someone describe the difference between the two?
mebbe it has something to do with the amount of force you ll be farting with xD
edit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brasserie_de_Rochefort
you may find yr answer there
was reading through and cant believe no one got these:
Guinness
John Smiths
Abbot Ale
IPA
mmmm beer
IPA is a style of beer, is not it?
its a style of beer. its like saying i cant beleive no one has said Lager.
India Pale Ale
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A bottle of Fuller's IPAIndia Pale Ale, abbreviated IPA, is an ale that is light amber to copper in color, medium to medium-high alcohol by volume, with hoppy, bitter and sometimes malty flavor.[1] IPA is a style of beer that is usually included in the broader category of pale ale. It was first brewed in England in the 18th century. Today, IPA is a popular style of beer among American craft brewers.
Contents [hide]
1 History
1.1 Early IPA
1.2 Modern IPA
2 Double India Pale Ale
3 Notes
4 References
[edit] History
[edit] Early IPA
IPA descends from the earliest pale ales of the 17th century, when the term "pale ale" probably simply distinguished ales which were light in color compared with brown ales of that day.[2] By the mid-18th century, pale ale was mostly manufactured with coke-fired malt, which produced less smoking and roasting of barley in the malting process, and hence produced a paler beer.[3] Once such variety of beer was October beer, a pale well-hopped brew popular among the landed classes, who brewed it domestically; once brewed it was intended to cellar two years.[4]
The October beer of George Hodgson's Bow Brewery was the world's first India Pale Ale. Bow Brewery beers became popular among East India company traders in the late 18th century because of the brewery's location and Hodgson's liberal credit line of 18 months. East Indiamen transported a number of Hodgson's beers to India, among them his October beer, which benefited exceptionally from conditions of the voyage and was apparently highly regarded among consumers in India.[5] Bow Brewery came into control of Hodgson's sons in the early 19th century, but their business practices alienated their customers. During the same period, several Burton breweries lost their European export market in Russia because of new tariffs on beer, and were seeking a new export market for their beer. At the behest of the East India Company, Allsop brewery developed a strongly hopped pale ale in the style Hodgson's for export to India.[6] Other Burton brewers, including Bass and Salt, were anxious to replace their lost Russian export market and quickly followed Allsop's lead. Likely as a result of the advantages of Burton water in brewing,[7] Burton India Pale Ale was preferred by merchants and their customers in India.
Demand for the export style of pale ale, which had become known as "India Pale Ale," developed in England around 1840 and India Pale Ale became a popular product in England.[8] Some brewers dropped the term "India" in the late 19th century, but records indicated that these "pale ales" retained the features of earlier IPA.[9] American, Australian and Canadian brewers manufactured beer with the label IPA before 1900, and records suggest that these beers were similar to English IPA of the era.[10]
Hodgson's October beer style clearly influenced the Burton Brewers's India Pale Ale. His beer was only slightly higher in alcohol than most beer brewed in his day and would not have been considered a strong ale; however, a greater proportion of the wort was well-fermented, leaving behind few residual sugars, and the beer was strongly hopped.[11] The common story that early IPAs were much stronger than other beers of the time, however, is a myth.[12] Moreover, porter shipped to India at the same time survived the voyage, and common claims that Hodgson formulated his beer to survive the trip and that other beers would not survive the trip are probably false.[13] It is clear that by the 1860s, India Pale Ales were widely brewed in England and that the were much more attenuated and highly hopped than porters and many other ales.[14]
[edit] Modern IPA
The IPA style is now common in the United Kingdom; many beers labeled IPA in the UK are by and large indistinguishable from ordinary session bitters, for example Greene King IPA and Charles Wells Eagle IPA. Among the traditional examples still brewed are Meantime Brewery IPA, Young's Special London Ale, Dark Star IPA and Freeminer Trafalgar IPA.
In 2002, Caledonian Brewery 'Deuchars IPA' took the title of CAMRA Supreme Champion Beer of Britain at the GBBF in London. This was an IPA brewed in the modern weak APV style in the UK.
In New Zealand, Tui is the brand of a popular beer famous for advertising more than beer with the "Yeah, Right" line. It is said to be an IPA, though is in reality a lager brewed with an addition of sweet crystal malt. In Canada, Alexander Keith's India Pale Ale, brewed in Halifax from 1820, is popular, however, unlike its modern American cousins, it is not a true IPA but rather one which has been toned down for modern tastes and is by all accounts a basic lager. By contrast, Halifax's Propeller, Garrison, and Granite microbreweries produce excellent traditional IPAs. Other IPAs more reminiscent of the historical flavour are available from smaller breweries. There are also micro-breweries producing IPA in NZ, such as Peak Brewery, in Wairarapa, in the southern North Island.
In Israel there is an IPA from a microbrewery called Dancing Camel.
In Fremantle, Western Australia, the Sail and Anchor brewpub produces one of the best examples of craft brewed IPA.
In the USA, the original highly hopped and long aged (one full year in wood before bottling) Ballantine IPA was a beer of great distinction and a part of the Ballantine stable of brews since the early part of the 20th century. It now enjoys a legendary status despite the fact that it ceased being brewed to its original formula in the 1980s, and has not been brewed at all since the mid 90's. Within the USA, there is even a distinct type of IPA called the "West Coast IPA," which goes for a much more bitter, hoppy character than other IPAs, although the east coast brewed and Ballantine IPA was just as highly hopped as(and in some cases, more highly hopped tan) as many so called "West Coast" IPAs.
There has since the early 1980s been a movement to true Craft Brewing, where "real" IPA (a term open to wide interpretation) has been the goal; in fact, the once relatively rare style has become very commonplace. At least partly because of Ballantine IPA's legendary status in American brewing, the style has been attempted in recent years by numerous microbrewers. Among the dozens of current attempts at the tradition is the Hurricane IPA of Storm Brewing.
In the USA, IPA has gradually evolved into a distinct variant sometimes called American India Pale Ale (A few examples are Anchor Brewing's Liberty Ale, Lagunitas Brewing's IPA, Victory Brewing Company's HopDevil Ale, Hop Ottin IPA by Anderson Valley Brewing Co., Hoptical Illusion by Blue Point Brewing Co., Two Hearted Ale by Bells Brewery, and Stone Brewing Company's Stone IPA). Although some are made to traditional recipes, many American IPAs are brewed with citric American hop varieties such as Cascade, Chinook, Centennial, and Columbus. For example, Lost Coast's INDICA IPA which uses Columbus, Cascade, Willamette and Chinook hops. A few American brewers have also altered the style to increase the bitterness of the beer to well over 100 IBUs and the alcohol levels up to 10 or even more than 20% alcohol by volume. It should be noted that examples this "extreme" are generally referred to as Double or Imperial IPAs, though some argue that they are not IPAs at all but rather an entirely separate style.
[edit] Double India Pale Ale
Double India Pale Ales (also abbreviated as Double IPAs or IIPAs) are a strong, very hoppy style of pale beer. Also known as Imperial IPAs, perhaps in reference to the Russian Imperial Stout, a much stronger version of the English Stout, these beers are essentially India Pale Ales with higher amounts of malt and hops. Double IPAs typically have alcohol content above 7% by volume. IBUs are in the very high range (60+). Such "style" labels can seem arbitrary however, since the aforementioned Ballantine IPA in its original formulation was certainly well above these benchmarks.
There are some brewers that believe the name should be San Diego Pale Ale, since the style most likely started near San Diego, CA [15] -- specifically a Double IPA brewed in 1994 by Vinnie Cilurzo[1] of the failed Blind Pig Brewing Company of Temecula, CA[citation needed]. Vinnie claims he "accidentally" created the style by adding 50% too much malt to his mash tun. He then "corrected" this mistake by adding 100% more hops. This metric (50% more malt, 100% more hops) is the basic guideline behind the style.
Ales Brewed in Northern California such as Lagunitas' Maximus IPA, Bear Republic's Racer 5, as well as others in the San Diego area have taken to the double IPA style, including Stone Brewing Company, Oggi's Brewery, Alpine Brewery, Alesmith, Ballast Brewing Company, and Port Brewing Company, etc. However, others attribute the creation of this style to the Rogue Ales, a microbrewery in Newport, Oregon, and its I2PA beer, brewed in 1990. [2]
Many of the stronger DIPAs could be alternately classified as American barleywines or Triple IPA's. As a relatively young style, it is still being determined. It is one of the fastest growing styles in the craft beer industry, and a favorite among hopheads.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India_Pale_Ale
hmm, guess I've had the "Double" variety, it was too hoppy and strong for my liking
so it is a beer!? im lost here...when i go to the pub i ask for "IPA" and they give me a glass with IPA on it with stuff called IPA in it...is ipa not a beer then?
you should ask who makes it
oddly enough some Americans have changed it up so much their liquid shouldn't be called IPA anymore. Go figure, I mean when have we ever done something like that?
Eh, my day to day beer is Milwaukees Best. A very cheap one, with a good bite, and strong flavour. I also like Steel Reserve.
When I can splurge, I get Guiness, Harps, Fosters's , or Corona. I also like Heiniken, Coors, and Coors Gold. (Red Horse too.)
Y'all can stuff the lights. They are just like Everclear an water, no taste to em. An, any Budwieser? For get it. It tastes too skunky to me.
When it comes to my beer, I want the taste. You can see I go all over the board. Stouts, lagers, ales, etc. (same with my wines, tho that is a diff thread, lol)
holy crap you LIKE steel reserve??
dude I drank it to get drunk enough to fall asleep at noon...but like it???
At noon? LOL.
Yes I like it. It is cheap, an has flavour. It is like Stout light, lol.
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yeah I used to work graveyard shift...
not old enough to drink.
Eh, That brings up a whole other subject. An, should be another topic. But I post a bit here.
Some countries keep raisin the drinking age, to stop problems with DUI an alcohol related offenses. USA had a problem with drinkers from 18 to 20 YOA, so raised age to 21. Now, we have the same problem (or worse) with 21 to 24 yoa.
My take: DROP all restrictions on alcohol. Get people used to alchohol BEFORE they can drive. So an 8 yo gets bombed? He learns about it before he ever gets the keys to the car. He can learn his limits sooner.
I keep seein countries with no age limits on alchohol, and lower DUI rates, than those who limit by age.
exactly my thinking hummy. i remember my grandfather giving me a taste of beer and wines etc when i was about 8. so for me it's no big deal to have a drink and i have been doing it for a long time.
i think the main difference between me and my friends (who only started drinking when they were 18) because of my young introduction of beers and wines is that i VERY rarely go out with the idea of getting hammered but most of my friends and people i just see out think that when you go out on the town you HAVE to come back steaming or else it's a bad night!
hummy, 8 years is a bit young ![]()
Over here, you can only obtain a driver's license at the age of 18 (you can start learning it earlier though) and the drinking age is at 16, but loosely applied (14 or 15 year olds rarely have problems with obtaining alcohol)..
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