> the subject i was talking about was that the max amount of human population the earth could sustain. at first you attacked my position, "You are aware that the Earth is finite, and therefore any natural resources are also finite, right? I ask because I get the impression from your post that you see them as infinite, or at least not finite enough for you to worry about it."  after i successfully defended my position, you changed the subject from what we are capable of to the morality of it... "I would think a Christian (of any sort) would have more respect for God's creation, regardless of how they define being given "dominion" of a world." <

  Your defence was an empty generality: "the thing is that we are utilizing nowhere near all of the earth."
  Followed by a statement that seems to be a response to something I never said: "so to say that technology cant increase the amount of humans the earth can support is nonsense"
  Followed by a weird combination of blind faith and science-fiction: because technology can help us utilize more of the earth, which would allow the earth to support more humans
  And even if this were the case such efforts would only slightly raise the number of people Earth can accommodate above 1bn, not 6-7bn.
 
  One day you WILL be right, but by that time it won't happen as it will be irrelevant; something will have already broken, and I think it will be us.

> i never claimed we can copy god and make everything out of dirt. <

  Sorry, that was an annoying assumption by me.

> my argument is right now, we are not utilizing anywhere near all the resources we have available. <

  Because we can't. Oil under New York, Gold under the Amazon, fek knows what at the bottom of the ocean... now claimed by Russia. Stuff on the moon...
But even if we could get at them we would not have enough of the most important resource in the world: Food.

> im not purposing dirt being magically turned into something else. better technology leads to higher efficiency, making less wasted, meaning more can be supported. it also increases the product available to us. <

  Really must finish reading before replying...

> for example, technology that would either make the removal of salt from water cheaper, or make electricity in general cheaper, would lead to a greater amount of fresh water available to support a larger human population... <

But in order for that to happen people have to stop being such soft southern nancies and accept the fact that we NEED nuclear power, seeing as though everyone thinks Windmills are too ugly to have in their back yard.

Sorry it's been so long, I've been busy with psych stuff.

> Blind Guardian wrote:

>

Noth that I was talking to you, but:

When did I do that?
Quote me exactly, word for word.

To be honest I just want Avogadro to explain to me what on this worthless ball of rock makes him think we can copy god and simply make everything out of dirt when we've used up all available resources, but I doubt that will happen.

"who doesn't" what?

um...dem?

Slaughter innocent Whales for meat, or innocent piggies for meat?

I like Amorphis, I first discovered them on http://rateyourmusic.com/release/comp/various_artists_f2/contaminated_3_0/ which features The Way and In The Beginning.

I laughed out loud in my new library @ Linkin Parody... Is funneh because is true

Immortal \(>o<)/
I wonder what their line-up is these days?

Myabe you could just get it to high altitude?

1) It's not about what you know. It's not about who you know. It's about how quickly you can saturate the media with your name during the week before the show. (I bet this is 100% accurate even though I don't know what you're on about)

2) Welcome to the "If my room-mate dies I get all A's!" world. Thanks nanny!

Heath Ledger) See 2.

Explain how the topic changed.
Then explain what it was about my post that upset you so much you had to attempt to change the discussion into a personal flaming war.

CHALLENGE:
See if you can find a word for [brown stuff that comes out of your anus] that is not an euphemism OR a swear word.

> avogadro wrote:

> > &#9773; Fokker wrote:
> "considering the huge penalties for converting from Islam that exist in some countries"

My local shop keeper cannot go home to visit his family because he will be behedded (or something like that) for converting to Catholicism (for love). No one he knows even believes, apparently, but they say that they are for an easy life... kinda like when I used to say I believed in Santa and God.

you think catholics and/or christians are the same way? they'll behead you for converting to another religion? <

  I think, based on 1st-hand experience, 2nd-hand experience, as well as video evidence, that the penalites for... leaving Christianity are much worse than mere death:
Shunned by family, friends, perhaps even work-mates. A fate far worse than death for any social creature.

  Let us take you for example, in your woo-woo-christian community: What would happen if you... chose a new path? Better yet, what would happen if they realised you were even thinking about choosing a new path?