he's still a fool!:p

lol that's a very interesting situation.

"lmao, what are you basing that off of? Obama isnt a liar because he's a good public speaker? and then McCain is nearly as bad as Bush at public speaking so he must be just as bad as Bush?"

when did I say anything about public speaking? I'm going by their politics. If you're going to argue anything at least say something relevant to what you're arguing.

and btw, Obama isn't muslim. And even if he were, what difference does it make what God he believes in? or anyone else for that matter?

lol my family is most likely going to drop cause I'm being super aggressive too:p

I'm super busy and I still kick ass

There was tax on aid? I never noticed that:p

Yeah, unfortunately, when I weigh all the outcomes, it's a horrible idea in this age of IC. However you have given me a good idea for something else. You guys can stop this petition now. This is NOT going to happen to andromeda:p

I dunno, that's indeed one way to look at it but not neccesarily the first thought that would've come to mind. honestly, if it were me, I wouldn't think he was trying to steal something but the fact that DPS thought so doesn't neccesarily mean it was a racist implication.

And the point about "a black guy, a white guy, etc. walking past the door" is well noted and I can't come up with an argument for that so I'll have to agree with you there =p

But anyways, he was asked to describe the gentlemen. Now what he did imo was describe the guy accurately. "Yay height, such and such color hair, certain amount of pounds". I wouldn't say it's fair to jump to the conclusion that he was being racist as more of him being protective. I can't say the same reaction would've applied had he spotted a white guy but I won't assume he was being racist by describing and sending up smoke signals at the sight of the black guy. Of course the story could have happened differently from was told to us though. Either way, only he knows how he felt, what he saw and how he said things at the time

lol Gekko is right though. Problem with big fams farming small fams is that small fams don't know how to build infra or aren't that active.

Top 3 contenders:

-Bringing Back The 80s (645) (x:23,y:48)  910 3313940

This fam has led with solid infra and organization. I don't think they are a powerhouse family who can dominate a war, especially against one of the stronger families in the galaxy but I do feel they will have a sizable advantage in a cancellation war. Their strong economy and teamwork will take them far. Contenders for top 3

-Naci loves men off the night (668) (x:42,y:5)  852 2735277

This family is the real deal. I'd say overall attacking/infra, this is probably the most complete fam in MW but not neccesarily by a large margin. Just thanks to great leadership and role players. I've seen this family destroy 436 as well as kick the tails of a few other families so obviously you do not want to mess with bunny! X(

Contenders top 5

-The Naughty Biatches (661) (x:6,y:33)  859 2919688

I have mixed feelings about the lineup. Talentwise, they are top notch but they have some egos here. Love is a great player and excellent leader so I'm sure that they will go a long way with him in charge. Attacking wise, they have the best lineup and will use their brute strength to kill other families. (see 439) They have the best spread in MW as well and should cruise to a great top finish this round if they continue to play the way they are. Contenders top 3

TONIGHT WE DINE IN HELL - (663) (x:100,y:80)  839 3055446

The problem I have with this family is that they don't have any real attack power. Anubis is a very good attacker and big gary is a good attacker as well. Problem is, he's not attacking so they lose a great 1-2 punch with him banking. Their infra is nontheless solid with excellent players working together so they aren't a fam to take lightly. But they have a style of wasting valuable resources jumping jumping jumping a single attacker. That's not very good when you consider the competition. However working with their allies gives them a shot at the top. So contenders top 5

- Platform 9 and 3/4 (638) (x:53,y:31)  852 3290587

This family plays a solid all around strat. Balanced lineup, good position but I don't see them dominating anything this round. This is a family that has a chance to take the #1 spot based on how many wars drag out/occur this round. If they war a powerful alliance like 663/661 then they are my favorites to win based on sheer strategy. If they were to say war 661 solo, then I don't like their chances. Basically, they are the beast that bides its time and waits for the prey to sleep. Not so much aggressive, just intelligent. Top 5

Top 10 Contenders:

-Satans little helpers (666) (x:43,y:36)  751 2548890

Well, we know how they did last round and I suspect they won't disappoint this round either. Very good family with a lot of skill. I like them a lot but this isn't a fam I'd be afraid to fight. Now the reason I say that is because they aren't overly active. Not saying they are inactive, just that if I were to fight with them relentlessly, I'm sure after a while they'd be on the losing end. I don't see this particular fam beating 645 one vs. one. Feel me? But as long as they continue their 638'esque strat then they will be fine. Call 638 mama bear and 666 the cub:p

Contenders top 7

-Drive thru mayhem (667) (x:59,y:5)  686 2006302

This family has great balance and has shown a lot of teamwork, however they've been very lax as of late. This is either a fam that will turn the corner and start killing some peeps or play to keep from dying. *shrug* not sure. Still, one half of one of the top 3 alliances atm so it's definitely not a fam to take your eye off of. We'll see how the ball bounces this round. Contenders top 10

-Just Monkeying Around! (636) (x:8,y:28)  557 1455503

They got into a hard war and got utterly knocked out. However they are a good bunch whom I believe can come back now that they've gotten the correct naps. I don't count this fam to stay out of the top 10 for long. They just need to remain active and regroup. Not too much to ask from a good family. Contenders

-Imperial Conflict Crew (642) (x:66,y:28)  720 2001914
-Psychadelic... (655) (x:99,y:65)  653 1845931
-DIRTY MIND (648) (x:77,y:86)  583 1831430

These guys imo, are bad families. Ok that's not really fair, 648 is the only fam that I don't really like. They have a moderate attacker in heavenites and a sucky attacker in fygaro. Gjiggy isn't bad but he's also sucky-moderate in skill. That with a lack of spread outside of s4 and being surrounded completely by stronger fams means their time at the top this round is limited. I'd be shocked if they managed 1k planets. Or if they avoid being raided. This is probably the first top 10 family to get to 30th.

642 is a good family in a horrible location. With 667,668, 661,639 and 663 oh yeah and 638 and 666 around them. Hmmm, do I even need to keep going?:p

655 probably won't last either. They just don't have what it takes to fend off any of the other top 10 families. Even 648 who I feel sucks can beat them I believe. So when it's all said and done, one of these families will be top 10 by default. The others will fall to the 25-30 area.

The rest:

11 Game Face (656) (x:33,y:27)  625 1817719

They are..ok. I think their problem is that they aren't organized. I'm seeing that with a lot of potentially good fams. Their position isn't really that bad but that depends on their naps. In any case they are either going to contend for top 8-10 or be farmed. Still plenty of time for them to figure it out

12 Team players! (659) (x:46,y:55)  545 1621247

I don't see much happening with them. They are just a bit too inactive. If they avoid conflict for most of the round they can sneak into a 7thish rank but it's a long shot. They need to get it together now.

14 The Weathermen (664) (x:97,y:71)  431 1368231

Farm. Sorry guys, I just don't see a strong round for you. Nolio predicts Cloud like skies(see fam 639)

15 DOOM (652) (x:78,y:42)  345 1281334

These guys can't do it. They have the correct name as they are indeed doomed. Too cliche? Well too bad X(

16 The Knights of the Round Table (637) (x:84,y:99)  517 1274434

I like these guys. They are fiesty. I need to give them some tips ingame cause I really see potential for them if they can turn the corner asap. Location isn't good but they can make the most of it. Contenders 10-13

17 )-Retribution-( (646) (x:4,y:13)  460 1196802
18 Om3rtA (641) (x:60,y:30)  456 1194706
19 Imperial Alliance (660) (x:35,y:51)  378 1173152

Ok all 3 of them together probably equal the skill level of monkeywrench and arganon. I predict they will all break top 5 and last as long as IC death's nap agreements. And they will all gain as much status as baratheon. Now go get em tigers!

Honorable Mention:

20 Free Your Mind

lol Dragon nothing you're saying is making sense:p

"meaning, if he didn't station, ops won't help you because you won't be able to destroy units."

Umm, you're answering a question that wasn't asked.

"running a fleet that large compared to yours would only destroy your fleet and do little damage to his. bringing your networth down more than his."

Who's to say that he hasn't jumped much larger? Not to mention he said he has run ppl in the past, so you don't know what their fleets were and what his were:p

none, especially since this represents me and not the rest of the mod team:p

atm I'm pesturing stefan for a more efficient solution till we come up with something permananent.