Joor, that's because you see him as a Republican and not as a candidate.  You apparently don't know who McCain is or what he stands for.

wow what a big response
it's too long to read through but a couple of points

1) i think it was you zwarf that said i would do the same thing, vote through hate that is, i have never voted or been interested in an election before, my mom, my dad, my brother, and 5 of my cousins have never voted before, my grandparents voted once before for algore , they didn't vote again, or before that, they all voted this time, i can't vote in the primaries cuz i'm in canada right now , i'll prlly move to america in time to vote in the fall, i already have a citizenship and what not there but anyways, we all are guna vote this time around, if we had voted out of hate we would have a candidate every year, to me atleast it makes no sense to vote against someone rather than vote for someone

why not vote at all?

2) avogardo i think it was who said obama people vote with hate too, i do not know from atleast  60 of my friends who are guna vote obama, even one person who's voting against mccain, although i know around 11 people who are voting against obama, they get picked on by me , but anyways obama supporters are mostly newer voters, who haven't voted before, the ones who have i don't know of one who's voting against mccain

and wow, very few dems on IC

"We want a strong military so that we can exercise power in the world stage."

Ok almost 50% of the world's military spending is the US how much stronger could you possibly need it to be?  Are you saying one of the wealthiest nations in the world, spending almost as much as the rest of the world combined on their military is at risk of being out done?

I understand the money is there to be had but most people who say lower taxes, increase spending x make no consideration for the fact that something is going to have to give.

"to me atleast it makes no sense to vote against someone rather than vote for someone"

it makes perfect sense. if Hitler ran for president and you werent thrilled with the cnadidate thats running against him, would you not still attempt to keep Hitler from the presidency by voting against him? Obama is Hitler but worse. i dont see how it doesnt make sense to you. if there are 2 people running for president and 1 of them not winning is in your best interest, why wouldnt you vote against them?

"Obama is Hitler but worse."

and WAMMOOOOO avagardo you just earned yourself the stupidest human on earth, you can claim the trophee from bush once you and him and mccain are in the un-employment line

tell me, cuz i'ma little curious, how is obama worse than a man who brought death upon six million jews for no apparent reason, not to mention the millions of soldiers from countless countries...

you made it relevant by bringing it into the argument

and you can't be seriously sticking to that argument avo, c'mon even you should be smart enough to not defend that comment...

if we're guna go with that, then why the hell do we blame osama bin laden? osama was not the one who was drivng the plane into the world trade center...

To my eyes Republics are bad and Democrats are good.

Like in the eyes of others: Christdome is good, Muslim is bad (No offense).

Why would you need "one" leader when the US is a free country. Being democratic gives lots of oppurtunities the US never had.

But thats through my eyes. I'm Dutch, we feel quite resposible for "everything". Some say we're even afraid to delegate.

> Gladiator wrote:

> you made it relevant by bringing it into the argument

ok gladiator, please explain to me exactly how people's opinion of Obama is relevant to whether voting against someone is a justifiable reason to vote? 

as for osama bin laden. i would say he is partially to blame for many deaths, but that the condition the middle east is in is much more to blame and allowed him the thrive. i would never say that Osama bin Laden killed the people that died in 9/11 like how you say Hitler killed everyone in WWII.

Mcain for the win!!

Obama would ruin our great nation. The guy has NO experience and has some pretty questionable assaciations. William Ayers was a terrorist; he was a member of the radical terrorist group Weather Underground. He was involved in multiple terrorist bombings on US soil. On 9/11/01, he was quoted as to saying that he did not have any regrets for the bombings. He said he wished he had done more. Obama conducted a few speeches alongside Ayers and even his own campaign said that he and Ayers are friendly. Anyone who is friendly with a terrorist, especially one that is not sorry for his actions and even wishes he had done more, is not a good canidate for President of the US. Just wait til the debates begin, this alone will destroy him. Most ppl have not yet heard about this, so it will shock all those that are not Kool Aid drinkers.

McCain may not be my first choice, but he is certainly better than Obama!

Obama at anytime would be bad. It may not seem possible, but he could do alot of damage in 4 to 8 years. Can you imagine the damage a national health care system would do to our country. It would be devastating. Maybe when he has a bit of experience under his belt, he can be considered suitable. Even then tho his associations are quite frightening. People like him should not be president, he is a VERY dangerous man.

> Gladiator wrote:

> you made it relevant by bringing it into the argument

ok gladiator, please explain to me exactly how people's opinion of Obama is relevant to whether voting against someone is a justifiable reason to vote?

i can't untill you take back your stupid hitler statement the one comparing him with obama and the one saying he didn't do shit