haha Ricking u know the long list of things to test in Aquiarius Dwarf? this may be at the bottom of the list, anyway, the problem is AD hasnt opened for ages and it dont seems gonna open soon, I think I wrote about reopening AD in the last 5 times I posted in ideas, not gonna happen, they'll open it with new 'brilliant' ideas the mods suddenly had, and not even have a look at this or others  threads.

AA... you are too 1 dimensional in your train of thought. You can make a premade race good without having to hold on to things like "race description" and without having to only make them special with a custom tailored OP. Make a new race description for a more well thought race than the other way around makes a lot more sense as well.

Also custom ops are nice, but I put my ideas on how I think Quantum and Wardancers could be made more useful by giving them an edge in other certain areas than just a cool shiny op. I don't want to open up multiple threads just to discuss what I think can make Quantum/Wardancers good, I feel it is on topic and relevant.

Changing base build time is not any more difficult than implementing a new op... Giving Wardancers faster base portal speed seems more dynamic than just have 1 Wardancer in your fam on standby and jump agents/wiz to perform a particular op when war comes. Same thing for Quantum with just some "a bit stronger OP than others out there" so you have 1 in your fam to just be on standby and jump to OP during war.

Please tell me what role Quantum fills right now and why I would play custom attacker if you speed up Wardancers to 100% speed, or why I would play Wardancers if their speed is 80% or less.

You can give me a race with +20% to everything and +40% to speed along with all OPs and droids and TO and I still wouldn't use it. Yet that is a lot of race points, you are stuck in the mentality that premade with a lot of race points means they are good.

If Quantum is good at agent opping and research, why don't we take advantage of their research % and make it so that any cash you dump into research for quantum, it gets converted by 50% instead of 10% each tick (or even 100%?) And then make it special for them such that agent op success for them gets a bonus from the number of RP they have?

Render and Valenka...Now your posts have just become so stupid and out there that the only explanation is that you two are just attempting to troll....Leave the trolling to the experts and go away.

Ok I'll post what you want to hear.

Your racial ops are the best, flawless and no need for anymore discussion. Why post if you don't want comments? Retarded.

Valenka
SS ChampionRe: New Racial Ops.Please tell me what role Quantum fills right now and why I would play custom attacker if you speed up Wardancers to 100% speed, or why I would play Wardancers if their speed is 80% or less.

You can give me a race with +20% to everything and +40% to speed along with all OPs and droids and TO and I still wouldn't use it. Yet that is a lot of race points, you are stuck in the mentality that premade with a lot of race points means they are good.

If Quantum is good at agent opping and research, why don't we take advantage of their research % and make it so that any cash you dump into research for quantum, it gets converted by 50% instead of 10% each tick (or even 100%?) And then make it special for them such that agent op success for them gets a bonus from the number of RP they have?

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Actually as of late there has been an increased number of Quantum pop bankers as well as Resourcers due to the science bonus.  Quantum has it's role if you know game mechanics and how to play the game.

As far as Wardancers, right now they are viable for resourcing with decent science and can still be used to do some core cleaning and attacking with their attack bonus.  Yeah the speed bonus slows them down but some people still do play the race.  With the addition of an op that could have strategic value, It could warrant more value in a Wardancer if used properly. 

[Render]
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Re: New Racial Ops.> Alundra wrote:

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> my point is, custom races are already in disadvantage, what if you bring 4 more powerops ?? customs will be 4xmore falling behind

the only solution imo is to make those ops public yes, but at a high high price (in race points)

and if you like Josh ops tehn you'd vote for them in the thread/poll about the new powerops, nor I

wooooo f the custom races could have the SPECIAL special ops of each race I'd have a custom race with all of them and a 50% magic bonus, lol .
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you're missing the part where I say these ops are very expensive, so you wouldnt be able to get 50% magic bonus, actually, if you pick those powerops, the rest of your attributes should be all negative or null. So yes you'd be able to pick those ops, but thats all you'd have in your race, not a single bonus, not droids, not a IP, negative income and attack, etc...

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Customs are already made to be generally a perfect race for all roles except for pop banking due to not enough race points to really make an effective one.  You don't have to deal with the flaws like you do in each premade race.  You could add another 10 or so race points but I do not believe they should also get a special op for themselves.   There has been a lot of the community the past few years pushing for some additions to the premade races to make them more viable, that is the basis of the idea here.

Whether you think custom should be improved or that different stats on premades should be changed is a completely different idea and complaint.  Try to stick to the topic here.

lol Render, I can always count on you for a laugh in the forum. You should re-read this whole thread over to try, again, to understand what people are saying.

AA is right IMO. Custom races are not the issue, and have never been. TONS of people use custom races. Before OH custom races were rampant in banking and have always been "better" for attacking.

Specialized ops + NEW RACES will HELP change the game.

We need to make a big change, not some little bullshit band-aid changes like 1-3 more ops.

The real problem with IC is simply the fact that no one cares because its been the same game for 10 years with minimal changes.

We've made many functional changes but no GAME CHANGERS.

Getting rid of cores, changing the attack % rules AGAIN. These things MAY change how people play. Just adding a couple opps will not.

So anyone in here arguing that "My opp will change IC!" is wrong. Because it wont. People will still infrawhore, people will still farm.

I'd like the mods to LEGIT open a thread making a competition to see who can make the best new viable race. The winner get's a year VIP and a forum tag of their choosing.

I'm talking creativity. And coding. Something original. Not another attacker race or another banker race or another opper race, something original and unique.

Is the IC community up to that?

EDIT: I realize I went off topic... I really do love all those Opp ideas btw, they are great.

The winner get's a year VIP and a forum tag of their choosing.

loled too

well sicne this is completely offtopic let me say I dont care a shit about tags and vips and topics, I am disrespectfull but full of reason when I say this SAME game with more race points to spend and some new ops to choose would be EXTREMELY BETTER

Now prove me wrong

Maybe Ps and the mod team can get these ideas implimented before the ICSR starts?? That would be nice

If not implimented, at least look at them and discuss it

I could deal with another 15 points for custom races.

It'd be cool to try these out for ICSR.

i knew it seemed like someone was watching me shower, now i have proof!