2,451

(287 replies, posted in Politics)

"There are plenty of theist or otherwise spiritual scientists whom have no difficulty reconciling their beliefs with science. "

its not even a situation of reconciling their beliefs with science. the Catholic Church actually invented the idea of the big bang.

2,452

(165 replies, posted in Politics)

"
so what if there would be no taxes? what streets would you drive on?
How would your police be payed? How your fire fighters... How would you maintain a military?
All by donations?
"

yep, all through donations. and if there arent enough donations for something, must not be important enough to build.

"For sure you as a single being are not in controle. but i am pretty certain that if a goverment [the forums mods pwned me before i knew it] up enough to make a big part of the population pretty unhappy.. the population can do its part to have the goverment removed."

governments such as the US, which has huge social programs, huge military, nuclear weapons, the idea that a large percentage of the population could remove the government is a joke. at 10/3/08 roughly 74% of the US population was pissed off at Bush, but wasnt enough. even if every american was pissed off at the government, they would not be able to remove it because they cant threaten something that controls their entire wealth, their millitary, and has nuclear weapons. even if you were able to take away the millitary, you would be talking about currency becoming worthless and foreign investment disappearing. the US government can do whatever it wants and it doesnt have to answer to its own citizens.

2,453

(165 replies, posted in Politics)

Canada wouldnt be so bad if they actually had some hot girls, didnt have quebec, and used mph instead of kph.

coming from someone who's a 20 min drive from Canada. dont try to claim any of those arent true!

2,454

(33 replies, posted in General)

Corona

2,455

(132 replies, posted in General)

> Smiof wrote:

> @Yell: I have never tried this Bastard ale, but I have seen it. Well, one thing is that there are some other local beers around here that compete quite well with other imports...
Oh, and one note - sometimes there is free beer on a brewery tour! I went to one last week :-)


too bad theres no good breweries by me sad closest good one is probably bell's which is probably like a 3-4 hour drive.

2,456

(287 replies, posted in Politics)

> Insignificant wrote:

> I guess I should have been slightly more specific. Can anyone actually pinpoint the relative point in time that basics organisms began to evolve on the large hunk of rock in which we currently reside.


i dont think theres a specific date, theres still several theories as how life started. theres the formation in the sea, formation in the sky, and then theres the beginning of life comming from a meteor theory. i think they have fossils that date back 3-3.5 billion years though, so a long time ago.

2,457

(287 replies, posted in Politics)

"You, you play your cards right and you'll get forgiven, and given an eternal afterlife, no matter what you do. No pressure?"

that doesnt change what happens in this life though. being forgiven doesnt mean when we screwed up, we didnt [The fmods owned me before I even knew it!] over a friend.


"Oddly enough this is one of my arguments for why some people cannot handle living in a godless universe"

yeah, thats why i turned it around and showed its a reason some people cannot handle living in a univserse with a God...

"because in a godless universe the ultimate responsibility falls on us, ourselves, and not on a god. Starving children?"

in a universe with a God, the responsibility still falls on ourselves...

"You can try as hard as you can possibly try to make yourself believe that I am trying to abslove myself of responsbility, to shun the consequences of my actions,"

i wasnt saying you're trying to shun the consequences of your actions, but to trivialize them.

"
  Notice the emphasis? That is to draw your attention to the part of the sentence that you ignored in order to formulate your argument, an argument that relies entirely on a, quite frankly, piss poor attempt at wordplay. Now this next quote is quite clearly my own personal view:"

to be fair, it wasnt an argument. it was me laughing at your argument. which in itself isnt an argument.

"  The mistake you make here is assuming that I have no "spiritual" beliefs, whereas I, in reality, do.
Don't ask, you don't deserve to know."

would only be a mistake if you beleive in a God, actually; do you?

and sounds like you're alittle insecure about your beliefs smile you're not a scientologist, are you?

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(287 replies, posted in Politics)

"can anyone actually prove the exact date of the earth?"

exact date as in the day it was created? also; depends on when you would consider it earth. would it be earth when it was half its current size? would it be earth without oceans?

2,459

(165 replies, posted in Politics)

"Taxes are a necessary part of a country. Who will protect our liberties from threats? Ofcourse there are those that believe we should take from the rich and give to the poor. I don't see how this will improve the economy but the American people insist that Obama knows what he's talking about on the economy. I would vote for obama for his foreign policy and mccain for his economy."

yup...


"You don't have to vote at all, you know."

we dont have to vote, and you know what, it doesnt make a difference if we do or dont vote.
our rights are mere illusions. cant even assemble unless the government doesnt care about the cause.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/30/us/politics/30arrests.html?adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1220104985-Dcl+Tjoc3eipfJB8HL+HPQ

2,460

(132 replies, posted in General)

im pretty sure Grolsch is Dutch, not German. i've also had Grolsch, Warsteiner, and St. Pauli's. i just bought two different beers made by Ayinger; one of them called Jahrhundert-Bier Century Celebration Bavarian Lager, and the other one called Brau-Weisse authentic Bavarian Hefe-Weizen

2,461

(132 replies, posted in General)

now that i think about it, the orval was $7.50 and the Chimay was more expensive, probably $9 or $9.50. i also went tot eh same restaurant and tried a Rochefort 8 which was $8.00; they were out of the 10 so it was an easy decision. it was pretty good, but i think i'll stick with Samuel Smith Old Brewery Pale Ale when i feel like spending alot of money on a good ale.

i think now its time to try abunch of German beers. any recommendations?

2,462

(144 replies, posted in Politics)

oh, one more thing Smiof; if you try a Samuel Smith Old Brewery Pale Ale; dont be expecting it to be a IPA. its a Porter; but during the industrial revolution, lighter colored beers were fashionable, and this beer is a amber color, so they called it a pale ale to distinguish it from the darker porters.

2,463

(287 replies, posted in Politics)

> 420 wrote:

> its meant to be a literal account for the small minded peons who cannot see beyond the words on a page, surface meaning is enough for the pea brains, going beneath the surface is left to scholars and those with an IQ higher than that of a cinder block.

touche'

2,464

(165 replies, posted in Politics)

"In a democracy as we live in the state represents the people.. in a democracy the power shall be by the people.. so the power and controle should be with the state since they are our representatives."

if the state represents the people. why does the government need to tax its people? if the people want their government to be bigger, they could just donate money to the government. but no, the government forces its people under threat of imprisonment, to give them a very significant portion of there income, in alot of cases over 50%. there isnt a democracy in the world, and in the current states of government, the people dont hold the power, corrupt politicians hold the power and thrive on the poor's hopes inorder for the corrupt politicians to gain power and steal the wealth of the successful and line their pockets while giving the poor just enough to keep voting for them. and that is why it is better to trust in the honest workers, who have built up their own wealth, then dirty politicians that are power and money hungry that rather steal the money from innovators then to earn it honestly.

2,465

(287 replies, posted in Politics)

"well actually most of the religions believe in that story.

it's in the old testament so both christian and jewish creationist know that story.

the islam also originates from the bible but they chose to follow mohammed as a prophet and not jezus, abraham, god

basicly those 3 main religions believe in the 7 day creation."

no, not at all. the  story is not meant to be a literal account of the creation of the earth and theres actually very few sects of those 3 religions that beleive it is a literal account of the creation of the earth.

2,466

(28 replies, posted in General)

hmmm, well, every Final Fantasy after 7 has been really, really bad. i've given up on the series; my brother hasnt though, sad guy is in denial; even saying FF8 wasnt that bad.

Burning Crusade was very disappointing game, even though technically only an expansion. they turned a pve centric game into a pvp centric game...

ic has made very bad changes over the years, turning the actual game to crap.



but acouple good games should be coming out. Left4dead looks like it could be quite fun; also fallout 3 could be very good, and ofcoarse starcraft II and diabloIII.

to say how S. Americans run their countries is there own business and we should stay out is a very outdated view that has caused many problems. If history has taught us anything its that how other countries run their governments is our business.

2,468

(165 replies, posted in Politics)

the tragedy is that Obama is going to become president. too little too late. if he had done this first debate, maybe he would still have a chance, but unless the economy starts booming and/or serious foreign threat arises; he doesnt have a chance in hell.

2,469

(8 replies, posted in General)

jk, i hate baseball altogether; but if i were to like baseball, i'd like american league.

2,470

(8 replies, posted in General)

"fans of American League baseball"

hey now! dont say anything you'll regret later!

2,471

(132 replies, posted in General)

it was expensive; it was i think $7.50 for 1 glass of it. my beer was more then half the bill when i went to teh restaurant, and i only had 2 glasses smile

2,472

(88 replies, posted in Politics)

bs, forefathers didnt find a common ground. acouple warmongers attacked abunch of soliders; and then everyone else was like oh [The fmods owned me before I even knew it!], we're going to get raped by the british once they find out about this.... hmmm, it wasnt so hard for those few guys to make the redcoats retreat, maybe we could repel the redcoats so we wont get raped...

and we have our constitution...

2,473

(54 replies, posted in Politics)

> A10 wrote:

> Libertarians are (in the US anyways) near anarchists. They oppose all government programs except for a small military. This means no CIA no FBI and very very very relaxed laws that don't limit people (like legalizing pot) etc . . .

well, we dont support babysitter laws. where the government acts like babysitters such as telling us we have to wear a helmet while riding a motorcycle or telling us what drugs we can and cannot use or telling us that we have to wear a seat belt.

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(54 replies, posted in Politics)

"n social issues people should have more freedom again. This means i do support abortion, gay marriage, and basically anytime government tries to interfere in my life. It really is not the government's job to tell us what is moral and what is not. Their job is to protect our liberties. I will make my own judgements on what is moral. Ofcourse i cannot go rob the grocery store because i think it is "moral" because i am hurting another individual who owns the grocery store. This is when government must act in the form of police officers and such."

this is pretty good; would just like to clarify that Libertarians do not necessarily support abortion. we believe its the government's job to protect our liberties; and some believe that includes protecting the fetus's liberties and some would think the fetus shouldnt get liberties.

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(88 replies, posted in Politics)

> BC Cougar wrote:

> i say pathetic world, we all had a say in letting this happen, but most just want to sit back and blame some one and do nothing.
everyone wants a perfect world, but also, no one is willing to get up and bleed for it, or be chastised for it, or even speak out for it......
you think the world is going to fix it's self for some reason.... or the same old parties that we have been voting in for years aren't doing business as usual.... wake the F up.


theres plenty of people willing to bleed for a perfect world, to be chastised for the perfect word, and to speak for the perfect world, the problem is that we cant agree on what is a perfect world, so all the bleeding, chastising, and speaking dont accomplish anything, noob.