If anyone else is going to play they MUST have their first post posted by SUNDAY.
I will post my second post on Monday, after that happens noone else will be able to join for some time, if ever.

Thanks Winter, now it is much clearer

"Strangely enough that piece of "fiction" as you call it, hasn't been surpassed by anything to this date."

Surpassed inn what way? And how does that prove that the Bible cannot be a work of fiction?

"Tell you what, if you can prove to me that Jesus didn't raise from the dead 3 days after his crucifiction, i'll renounce my faith right then and there and apologise to you for being wrong. Baring in mind that the jews were the only people who would really benefit from finding his body so they could show everyone they were right and He was lying; the apostles were hiding, the roman guards could have cared less and all the eyewitnesses."

Firstly, the event in question happened 2000 years ago, and so I cannot prove it didn't happen any more than you can prove it did happen.
Secondly, why would anyone want to look for his body? They watched him die, slowly, over a period of days before a Roman finally put him out of his misery and plunged a spear into his side. I think by that point they'd be very convinced that they were right.
Thirdly, what the hell does this have to do with my statement of "His point was quite clear: Just because it changed the world it doesn't mean it cannot be a work of fiction."?

"50 years to write 13000 copies by HAND. I dare you to do the same with a few of your friends and see if you even come close."

This ansewr does not address my point.

"It's not the teachings of a parable. It's the teachings of Jesus who spoke in parables to the non believers and provided an explanation for them to his apostles who included those in their gospels."

Firstly, is it not entirely possible that the entire Bible is a parable in itself?
Secondly, the heretical aramaic scripture dates to the year 30AD, was written in Aramaic i.e the language of Jesus, and spoke of things that are in direct contradiction with Christianity today, for example: If you wish to find God you will not find him in a church, but under a rock, beneath the ocean, above the clouds...
See my point now?

"Free will to make the choice of a) accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior and getting eternal life or b) turning your back on him and die in your sins. God uses people just as much as Satan does, only difference is that Satan does it to destroy lives and keep people from getting saved."

Now answer the question: How would he stop them?

"No, the Bible is still His word, it was just written down by man."

Which Bible? Are they all his word, faithfully reproduced by men with no ulterior motives, no desire for power absolut?

"Funny enough one of them is "Thou shalt not lie"..."

Any all men follow all of Gods teaching all of the time? No.
Most of the time? No.
Some of the time? If we are lucky.
Try to understand this: There is a massive amount of historical evidence to support that MEN put what they wanted into the Bible, edited it for their own ends, and this evidence is not even very hard to find.

Think about this: If Eve ate the Apple, as is clearly stated in any Bible written after a certain date, why do men have an Adam's Apple?

@ Justinian

Wait, you >intentionally< entered the friend zone? Why? The friend zone is like the only guaranteed form of contraception.

"Time to go," James said.
"Erm, sir? We're receiving a transmission," The young officer frowned, "It's Commander Krg, sir."
"He's a little late isn't he? Put it through."
"Aye sir, but I think you'll want to know that WE are the ones who are late; this is a local broacast, narrow band, tight signal, no further than ten kilometers."
"WHAT!" H- how?" He turned to look at the others and saw them to be no less surprised than he was, "Put him through."
The screen was filled with static but he could still see the unmistakable grinning pink face of Commander Krg, "Well you sure took your time! I got sick of waiting and came here myself... and then I got into trouble. Listen, because our brains are so different they know where we are at all times, we put holes in the psychic web or something, our mystic could tell you more but he got brain-fried by something. We're in some mines in the hills to the south, do what you have to do and on your way up transmit a subspace burst, my ship will see that and come out of subspace. The fighters and boarding claws know what your ship looks like so don't worry about them. As soon as you make your move we'll make our way to your- damn, they've found us again! Krg out"

All invertebrates.
I don't know why but anthing without a skeleton, like slugs or octopi, scares me.

As long as you understand my problem.

"If this forum had a decent way of quoting I would have done it that way, but theres hardly any difference between quoted text and what you say so i don't bother with it. I replied to every single point you made in the same chronological way."

Just do it the same way everyone else does it, Copyand Paste. And I already tried what you suggest but it seems to me you missed a point or two... If you can't be bothered to continue this discussion then just say so.

Although I don't imagine them to be any real danger, thus far they only seem to be interested in shouting rude words and asking difficult questions, I concur.

@fokker

Strangely enough that piece of "fiction" as you call it, hasn't been surpassed by anything to this date. Tell you what, if you can prove to me that Jesus didn't raise from the dead 3 days after his crucifiction, i'll renounce my faith right then and there and apologise to you for being wrong. Baring in mind that the jews were the only people who would really benefit from finding his body so they could show everyone they were right and He was lying; the apostles were hiding, the roman guards could have cared less and all the eyewitnesses.

50 years to write 13000 copies by HAND. I dare you to do the same with a few of your friends and see if you even come close.

It's not the teachings of a parable. It's the teachings of Jesus who spoke in parables to the non believers and provided an explanation for them to his apostles who included those in their gospels.

Free will to make the choice of a) accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior and getting eternal life or b) turning your back on him and die in your sins. God uses people just as much as Satan does, only difference is that Satan does it to destroy lives and keep people from getting saved.

No, the Bible is still His word, it was just written down by man.

Funny enough one of them is "Thou shalt not lie"...<

It is traditional to quote what you are replying to, and to reply to each point point by point, for the sake of clarity.
E.g.

"Jesus was a white man with blonde hair and blue eyes"

Even though he lived in the middle east? Please!

"And he loves guns and George Bush"

Even though they did not exist when the mad carpenter was alive?

See?

> Tutor Chees wrote:

> like said, stop comparing the game with the movie, just accept he got the idea of the script while playing it and start enjoying a good movie about killing and blowing up stuff<

So because it is named after a game it is unreasonable to expect it to follow the game? That is like saying it is unreasonable to expect a sequel to follow the prequel.
The point is that these films are being made in an effort to milk the gaming cow, and so far each film has failed, and failed hard, because nobody can accept one simple, basic fact:

Your target audience, gamers, expect the game to be faithfully and religiously reproduced, only with more story. Anything else is just Saturday afternoon Sci-Fi.

And is still within our borders.

But there is one small part you're forgetting: "They already see the "real" news, and they don't see anything bad against us."

So far an entire family, heroes every one of them, has died in a terrorist attack, and now a terrorist organisation which has been attacking us without provocation is claiming that one of our heroes is a terrorist? And because of this you honestly think that our neighbouring countries will allow you to operate within their borders? You think the world will tolerate your existence? One word from me and this whole continent will be filled with so many American soldiers waging a "War on Terrorism" the populace will turn on you in order to get rid of the yanks that much quicker.
You have nowhere to hide.
You have no justification.
You have no strategy.
You have no choice.