1 (edited by Justinian I 13-Apr-2008 22:47:17)

Topic: Women and the friendzone

Why is it that when you have established a friendship with a woman, she seems insulted when you suggest a relationship or sex? Moreover, she will end your friendship no matter how much time, energy, and money you have invested in her. It seems like once you are stuck in the friendzone, any attempt to get out is an insult and unforgivable act no different from deep betrayal and backstabbing.

On the other hand, when you make your intentions clear (not explicitly, but with body language + flirting etc) and accept no compromise early in the relationship, you minimize wasted time and give yourself the best chance of having a sexual relationship with her.

Okay. It just doesn't make sense that if your reinforce yourself only as a friend, it's guaranteed that the bridge between you will burn if you try to suggest an adjustment to your relationship that would involve sex/relationship. And it doesn't matter how much you've invested in her either. Women are willing to end valuable friendships because the guy wanted to be more than a friend. WTF?

Re: Women and the friendzone

I haven't had that experience hmm (where they want to end your friendship anyway). But I can empathise.

Best thing to do is make them sexually attracted to you early on and maintain that level through subtle flirting every now and again.

I understand completely how you feel lol, see if you can make them jealous in some way, and if they start becoming defensive about it all then they are attracted to you, so query them on why they are bothered and also why they won't take it to a different level smile

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Re: Women and the friendzone

Because women are trained to view dating as more competitive than friendship and if you try to switch up they feel like you cheated and tried to beat out sexier and funnier men without "earning it"

Which seems unfair but then I dont have strangers trying to invade me based on my torso fat

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Re: Women and the friendzone

u are probably ugly or very lame.

<parrot> there is also the odd  possibility that tryme is an idiot
<KT> possibility?
<genesis> tryme is a bit of an idiot
<Torqez> bit?

Re: Women and the friendzone

Well HA! I happen to be ugly AND lame!! so THERE smarty!!

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Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

Re: Women and the friendzone

lol!

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Re: Women and the friendzone

that was actually directed at justinian

<parrot> there is also the odd  possibility that tryme is an idiot
<KT> possibility?
<genesis> tryme is a bit of an idiot
<Torqez> bit?

Re: Women and the friendzone

Oh...welll...damn.

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

Re: Women and the friendzone

*pets the yell smile


@justi
mebbe they can tell with you that you wanted to get in their pants all along justi, when you finally tell m you d like to tongue
in that case the whole period of non-sexual friendship would feel as fake, lame, cheatz0r, pretending smile and mebbe they end it becoz they feel their trust is breached, or that they have to battle againt the hunger in your eyes, whereas they just might want to have a nice meal, a converstaion, watch a movie without your hands all over them tongue
or mebbe it s that they wont want to give you the wrong impression, where the female thinks, ah well , he s still that nice guy, and the male thinks ha! she didnt tell me to go away, so she must want me as well!

or smt.

till the end of time..

Re: Women and the friendzone

LOL@Yell

Sex without the e is still SX!

Re: Women and the friendzone

"Women are willing to end valuable friendships because the guy wanted to be more than a friend. "


It must be just you tongue

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Re: Women and the friendzone

Hm, or it could be we're in North America and our women are more hardboiled

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

13 (edited by Wild Flower Soul 14-Apr-2008 13:11:37)

Re: Women and the friendzone

"Women are willing to end valuable friendships because the guy wanted to be more than a friend."

Only if you're not able to conduct yourself. Or if you embarras her beyond belief..

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14 (edited by TheYell 14-Apr-2008 14:39:36)

Re: Women and the friendzone

Justinian it looks like it's just American women who play those games neutral

/gets two cans of beer

/offers a beer to Justinian

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

Re: Women and the friendzone

@ Justinian

Wait, you >intentionally< entered the friend zone? Why? The friend zone is like the only guaranteed form of contraception.

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Re: Women and the friendzone

yeah he pretty much cock blocked himself lulz

<parrot> there is also the odd  possibility that tryme is an idiot
<KT> possibility?
<genesis> tryme is a bit of an idiot
<Torqez> bit?

17 (edited by East 14-Apr-2008 18:06:43)

Re: Women and the friendzone

't is true that women decide very quickly whether they want to get it on with you sexually or not; although you can "get it on" in spite of the friendzone (great word heh) later but you have to take advantage when they are having a weak moment

mind you as a member of the friend zone you can ocassionally request petting privileges above the torso and below the knee, so it's not all doom and gloom wink

basically if a person of the opposite sex you consider a 'real' or 'close' friend is not willing to engage in form of physical contact with you whatsoever (even harmless) they in fact do not care about you

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Re: Women and the friendzone

"Hm, or it could be we're in North America and our women are more hardboiled"

I agree vm. My life in England is involuntairly saturated enough with American culture for me to understand that American dating systems are in many ways distinctly different than here in Uk, or many other parts of the English-speaking world. The girls-just-wanting-to-be-friends phenomenon is far less severe, clear cut and black-and-white as it seems to be in the US, and less widespread.

It's probably linked somehow to that stupid feministic Americanism of kicking a poor unexpecting boy in the balls for no reason somehow meaning you're a strong, self-assured, independant woman who won't take no shit from no pervert! or something to that effect. The more American gender values leaks into British culture (if there's any left) the more I wish I was born a good while ago as an eligible young virgin into Victorian gentry.

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Re: Women and the friendzone

"mind you as a member of the friend zone you can ocassionally request petting privileges above the torso and below the knee, so it's not all doom and gloom

basically if a person of the opposite sex you consider a 'real' or 'close' friend is not willing to engage in form of physical contact with you whatsoever (even harmless) they in fact do not care about you"

This is completely alien to the American experience!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beqV1B0z4lc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5bx-OmJDrQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5POru0Gjpu4

aw they cut the part in the end credits where Wallace blows it by trying to buy her the red pumps...

"It's probably linked somehow to that stupid feministic Americanism of kicking a poor unexpecting boy in the balls for no reason somehow meaning you're a strong, self-assured, independant woman who won't take no shit from no pervert! or something to that effect. "

That but even older and stronger is the American attitude "never give a sucker an even break" lol

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.