"The book is about the quest. The movie also but more about the battles and the wonders of that world."

And hot Elves.

PVP is Satan!

I remember disagreeing with WFS' knowledge of history once...

...ever seen someone crack a nut with a fourteen pound lump hammer?

Perhaps it could also be used for mentally cleansing criminals... ever seen Clockwork Orange?

http://www-tc.pbs.org/wgbh/cultureshock/flashpoints/theater/images/clockwork_big.jpg?mii=1

> Simon wrote:
> I'm a fan of Quenya.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTgwvadr3J0<

Isn't Quenya just a Nordic language with all the complicated crap removed?

"Can a bartender be a christian?"

Yes.

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What, you want more? Ok: Eireland, Italy, France, Poland, etc, are largely christian (50% or more) and are well know for alcohol consumption and production.

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And now to drag this thread into an idiotic argument that is horrendously off topic, as is traditional.

"1)  There is [a] God.  The universe just works better that way as there is some order and laws"

Ironically enough one of the reasons behind my "abandoning" Christianity was that the universe didn't make sense with a God in it.

"2) Humans, myself included, are "sinful".  We do bad things and even when I tried not to I couldn't for any given period of time be "pure""

Newborn babies? Infants? Children? They seem pretty pure, and that is before they know what right and wrong is. Like it or not the only way to achieve purity in this world is to cut yourself off from it completely, but then of course you get into the argument of how pure can you really be without temptation?

"3) There is "need" for some external assistance to not do "bad things""

I find this implication insulting.
I don't go out of my way to not murder people, or to not rape Japanese girls, because of some "external assistance", I choose to not murder people because I know I could not handle being responsible for such an action, not because I've been threatened with being anally raped by elephants for an eternity after I die.
Not by coercion, by choice, k?

"4) If God is pure then the "bad things" that I've done deserve punishment."

My point is this: Why does someone or something else's "purity" factor into wether or not you take responsibility for your actions, omission of actions, and the results thereof? If there was no heaven or hell would you simply rape and murder regardless of the pleadings of a dying jew 2000 years ago?

"-> Jesus paid for my sins according to Christianity so I'll stick with Christianity."

My great grandfather died for his country, duty and family, so should I take up arms and kill [tree] and jews? Sorry to cause offence but you have to admit that when put like that it does sound very stupid.

> Translucent Night wrote:

> Been keeping busy of late
attending Christian meetings, working on Christian education (for myself), just preparation
how about you?<

Between jobs again, but I took a course to improve my chances.
Been reading the Sikh holy book a little, iy's referred to as the tenth (or last) guru. It's odd for a Bible, they've intentionally altered it as time passes to keep relevant with the age (I think). Some parts are very different, like one part that's about how equality is impossible.

Christian education? Sunday school but bigger?

Screwdriver! I love it!

"If he really gets worked up into a rage (as in, his robes change color), it's hard to get him out, and there is the real danger that he will turn against the rest of the squad if he finishes killing all the enemies nearby."

I think we should write that it somehow.

I'd like to keep religion out of this if you please, Decimus.

Awesome!