"Stealing from the rich and giving to the poor is alright in a medieval fairytale like Robin Hood, but not in the real world.

That's not what I'm condoning."

if thats not what you're condoning. and you want the system to provide for disabled people unable to get their own essential needs, then how do you propose on giving it to them? because the only obvious  way to give people things they dont have is to take it from someone else.

"
The statement simply suggests that if a certain point is reached where people cannot
obtain the basic necessities in life, regardless of their effort, then the situation needs
to be somehow fixed."

it is saying that if someone doesnt have access to the fruits of someone else's labours, who doesnt want the fruit taken by people the system needs to be fixed so that it is available to them regardless of the person's feelings who created the wealth, as long as the thing he desire is deemed a "essential need"

"No, to me it means surviving with dignity and economic opportunity: food, shelter, housing, healthcare, education."

education, aye? before many of the things that we now consider part of basic education was ever taught, everyone in the world lacked essential needs? healthcare, so the medicine that was discovered last week, needs to be available for someone to have their essential needs, and everyone in the past was deprived of their essential needs. food, so people shouldnt have to work for food, they should just leech off of others? nothing that is a product of someone else's work should ever be considered an "essential need"; its just bullshit. and because nothing that is a product of another human is an "essential need" there are no essential needs any system should provide.

YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO ANYONE ELSE'S WORK

"The U.S. goes to war for no reason "

why are you guys actually arguing with him? he's an idiot. he thinks the US had no reason to go to war. he thinks that one day, Bush thought "you know what? there isnt enough blood and hardship in the world; lets starts a war" there is no debating with such delusional people.

i agree, the people that were intentially targeting civilians in vietnam were terrorists; but that doesnt make the entire US millitary a terrorist organization. the US millitary discourages such actions, not encourage like al-queda does.

> Selur Ku wrote:

> And the alternative to government is your fantasy world where you can do as you like with your fantasy private army.

dream on

first of all, im not an anarchist, im a libertarian; i just pointed out that socialists have turned what anarchy is into something it isnt, to make it look bad, because they want big government.  2nd, where the hell did you get this private army fantasy from? sounds like your fantasy, not mine. and anarchy does exist on a small scale all over the place.

what makes authority legitimate? when they're supported by 1/5th the population? or simply because they outgun everyone else?

> sKoE )= wrote:

> >
I have no idea what we are all arguing about...

thats nothing knew for you

> Chris_Balsz wrote:

> the desktop PC will be strictly for work within ten years

I mean only offices will use them

i doubt it, gaming on the pc will still be popular. sony and microsoft spent more money then they could ever expect to earn when they developed the playstation 3 and xbox 360; neither will be willing to do it again; pc's will have superior computing power, and will have games that are visually superior to their game console counter-parts. the one main hurdle of pc gaming is piracy, companies dont want to develop games that 1 copy could be put on 1,000 different computers; but anti-piracy software is getting better and better.

> Noir wrote:

> Elro, it might sound harsh, but it did happen and its perfectly true the way i explained it. When Flint is mocking a bill that suggest to but restraints on internet abuse, i think it is relevant that Flint is very much so guilty of the crime.

to make and argument is not a valid excuse to break forum rules "This further includes the distribution, release or discussion of any real-life, personal, or private information both real life and game related about other players"

the only real thing i saw that wasnt conservative was teh public schooling; which i definately disagree with. a lack of compeition makes teh schooling worse. each student should have money tied to them that goes to whichever acredited school their parents pick.

"
Why remove athletics? Do we differ in definition of athletics? (Sports, Physical Education, etc?)."

he has issues because jocks used to bully him; and so he creates arguments that the sole reason people are fat are because of their diets and athletics arent necessary, and waste money.