wants to hang kadaj by his nuts from the Millenium Wheel

"when republicans hold out on tax cuts until they get the larger tax cut, thats holding hostage. and i dunno how you pay taxes but i pay a whole lot more to the govt then i get back."

RAWR

let's pretend your fair share is 80%.  Never mind who the hell I am to say that, let's just understand your fair share of taxes is 80% of your income.

So if you really ought to pay 80%, and you're paying less than 30% in taxes NOW, you're a freeloader!!
HOW THE HELL can you take 50% of your income in subsidies??? SHUT UP! You greedy whore! The country needs the money! /sarc

if I earn $100 in sales that money is MINE.  If I earn $1,000 in sales that money is MINE.  If I earn $10,000 in sales, that money is MINE.  If I earn $100,000 in sales, that money is MINE.  If I earn $1,000,000 in sales, that money is MINE.  If I earn $10,000,000 in sales, that money is MINE.  If I earn $100,000,000 in sales, that money is MINE. If I earn $1,000,000,000 in sales, that money is MINE.  If I earn $10,000,000,000 in sales, that money is MINE.

We can argue what people like me can afford to pay. 

But there is no arguement about whose money it is first, last, always.  I earned it, it is MINE.

Letting people keep THEIR money is not a subsidy.   A subsidy is paying somebody ELSE'S money to a person.

And when you say "OK but really when you recognize their rate will always be a hard 40% , m'kay, so they really don't own 40%, m'kay, so if they get 75% of what they earned, they, they TOOK that from us, m'kay" you are playing mind games.  You are declaring your attitudes are the basis of reality, and others MUST fall in line with them, agree or not.

If you're gonna play mind games, play the one where I'm God Emperor and you're the grape-fetching boy. 

Boy! A grape!

i never get to draw the wards

next time summon me first and I'll help you with the protective circle ok?

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has the R Lee ermey motivational doll

should send that in to Russell Davies

was arrested for photoshopping Prince William and Katherine's heads onto Hall & Oates album covers and making t-shirts

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""Doctor, you mentioned the ration of ten women to each man. Now, wouldn't that necessitate the abandonment of the so called monogamous sexual relationship, I mean, as far as men were concerned?"
"Regrettably, yes. But it is, you know, a sacrifice required for the future of the human race. I hasten to add that since each man will be required to do prodigious... service along these lines, the women will have to be selected for their sexual characteristics which will have to be of a highly stimulating nature"

"Thus we could credit the 8% rise to the tax cuts Bush made. Now lets compare that to the surplus/deficit in federal budget:
2000: +236 billions, equivalent to 283 billions in 2007 (inflation)
2007: -160 billions
net change: -443 billions
Thus, the tax cuts brought in 228 billion of deficit, when waging the the increase in tax revenue against the budget +/- change. Even if we exclude the war costs (like 180 billions in 2007), the tax cuts still made a net loss of 48 billions in 2007."

Wrong. 

For one thing, the revenues in 2007, or any other year, ARE NOT THE CUMULATIVE RESULT of 7 years of a trend.  They are the result of the previous 12 months economic activity. 

For another thing, the deficit in every given year is largely a deliberate choice by Congress and the President to spend a whole lot more than they take in. The "net" results come after Congress makes a deliberate choice to have a spree.  It is NOT the unconscious result of a national economy.

So it is not proof of a "market force' either.  It proves tehy didn't really care about running a deficit every year.  It doesn't prove an axiom of macroeconomics.

To try and develop some "law" at work you could look longer than 30 years of Gross receipts, or revenues.
I think the Congress publishes records of quarterly outlay and revenue for the past 32 years.  I read that in the 1990s and saw that in years when the economy grew, revenues grew, and when the economic stuttered, so did revenues.  Taxes are due on gains, not losses.

That's not really a plan, it's the aggregate of millions of economic choices by a few hundred million actors.   

BTW DOD costs were a lot more than $180 billion in 2007.

yesh

buy our bondsss

>>he is the same age as I am, and he works directing a local news affiliate for NBC. <<

WTF dude, why are you broke?  film the IC gang with faces blacked out and voices distorted, call it "Europe's Underground Sex Railroad", bill this whole trip to the network