3,026 Reply by Justinian I

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My moral beliefs do not align with any religion. I say that there are no morals other than the ones we make up.

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3,027 Reply by Justinian I

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Tavius,

Lol we smacked them natives and built an empire. What are you talking about?

Maybe we just like Tibet and want them liberated?

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3,028 Reply by Justinian I

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> Vampman14 wrote:

> @Justinian

Thats still at least half of the US population who don't get a say in who runs the country, it is a good idea, but just because people earn less than a certain amount p.a. doesn't make them stupid.  They could be intellectuals in a first time job, just getting work experience.

True. But if you have a bachelor's degree, you can expect to make at least 40k starting in. If you make at least 40k without a bachelor's degree, then it is a strong indicator that you are smart anyway.

I'm not saying this system won't exclude idiots or will include just intellectuals, but I think it will do a very good job at ensuring an informed voter base while excluding the uneducated and uninformed voters from voting.

Hehe, "who are you to do x." Well, one only needs the power to implement something. However, I am not implementing anything, I do not have the power to. Still, I think it's a good idea in terms of overall utility to American society.

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3,029 Reply by Justinian I

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PV,

Whoa! That's lame. Even my public school divided science between Biology, Chemistry, Geology, Physics, and Astronomy etc etc.

Vamp,

Yes they may feel upset for being excluded, but my proposed standard does not limit the voting population to a group as small as the yeoman. It limits it to something more like 50 or 60% of the US population. It's a small price to pay for stopping them from ever voting in a demagogue. Another thing to consider is that European states and the US didn't start allowing universal suffrage until education improved and was widely available. Their reservations before then were valid, and the educated class in America has reason to be concerned of the declining quality of education and increase in poorly educated and low income earners.

Avo,

A valid point, still acquiring a college degree requires some intellect. The standard also does not dismiss those who make $40,000 (which requires some intellect and hard work too) or big time investors or businessmen who never bothered to go to college.

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3,030 Reply by Justinian I

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> tavius wrote:

> America already has systems in place to prevent mobocracy I thought. Besides when was the last time someone without any of the criteria you outline ever been elected to Congress or the Senate?

Our laws defend minority rights, yes, but minority rights can be toppled by changing the law. Our constitution is not absolute, it can be changed or thrown out even. And what criteria are you referring to?

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3,031 Topic by Justinian I

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The Athenian and French Revolutions were two clear illustrations for why universal suffrage is a bad idea for a state with a large base of uneducated masses. They tend to think uncritically, and vote for demagogues that topple on the freedom of others.

The United States is entering a grave situation where the mass of people are uneducated and unwashed barbarians, thanks to the neglect of teaching independent thinking in the mass of American public schools. Only 27% of the US population has a four year college degree (which is pathetic considering how easy it is to acquire one). Moreover, nearly 40% of US individuals over the age of 25 earn an income that is less than $20,000. Though the number of retirees and disabled persons may inflate this number, the figure still paints a haunting figure of the US population, that a significant percentage of Americans are poor, uneducated and large enough to be critical to our elections.

Our education statistics also reinforce this haunting picture. The US ranks well below most post industrial societies in standardized test scores, and just by attending an average university class you will identify deep stupidity. Furthermore, just by talking to the average American you will find a prevailing pattern in world views that is not conducive for a responsible voter. They have a fatalistic and paternalistic mindset. As a member of the upper middle class, I was raised with an individualistic and self-reliant mindset that said I could create a favorable outcome for myself with enough planning, determination, and hard work. Education, critical thinking, and making your own way were the values I was raised with, and I had an abundance of family members to prove it so. By contrast, a common pattern for Americans of the growing "poor and uneducated" variety have paternalistic and fatalistic mindsets. They see themselves as victims of a divine power or the system (referring to white people, rich people, or some other label for evil people). And rather than assume control for their lives, they want to relinquish this control to a paternalistic figure such as God and/or the government. They are so deluded they consider government morally superior to a company, and as an institution that can guarantee their welfare. They believe this even in the sea of opportunities for self-advancement and examples of people born in situations just like them who successfully crafted their own future.

I can not fully explain the reasons why these people can not take responsibility for themselves, but I suspect it is due in part to an observational lacking in rational development. They seem limited in the capacity to draw conclusions from experience, grasp abstract concepts, see contingent events from a following event (resulting in poor organizational and planning skills), and effectively identify the means to reach their desired outcomes. These effects are easily observed in this part of the American population, and knowing this it is easy to understand why they are so fatalistic and seek a paternalistic figure. And a lacking in rational development can be BLAMED ON THE SCHOOLS! I BLAME OUR CRAP PUBLIC EDUCATION FOR THE POOR RATIONAL DEVELOPMENT IN A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE AMERICAN POPULATION!!!

This disturbing situation means that universal suffrage is a threat to American society, because history could repeat itself. A revolution may spark that leads to the election of a demagogue(s) and result in a tyrannical society. We just need to look at Obama to realize this as a plausible future. Obama has shaken things up by mobilizing much of this population due to his remarks against the "baddies" and for his promises to provide new and expanded social services at the expense of these "baddies."

In an attempt to prevent this dangerous outcome, I think it is important for America to limit suffrage to people with property, an education, and a certain income (say $40,000). In addition, we need to focus on improving education and living standards for these people so they are pacified and less of a threat to our civilization.

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3,032 Reply by Justinian I

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I always thought that supporting Tibet was essential to smacking China from competing with the US

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3,033 Reply by Justinian I

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> paul valter pihlo wrote:

> exactly maybe they're running out of space on their home planet and want earth.

Then they would have space bombarded us by now and killed us all.

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3,034 Reply by Justinian I

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> TaylorMacDonald wrote:

> and if they could fold space or travel at the speed of light. why would they want to come here?

I do not know. Then again, we would be so technologically inferior to such a species that they may see opportunities and threats on our planet or in our species that we would be unable to conceive of.

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3,035 Reply by Justinian I

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> Wild Flower Soul wrote:

> I think there was never a UFO near our planet. If another species is able to construct an object that can travel at the speed of light, it would still take them such bloody long time to get here. I think that's a serious barrier that makes it rather impossible tongue

Not if they can fold space

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3,036 Reply by Justinian I

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Mace,

So? Nobody cares about poor people.

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3,037 Reply by Justinian I

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Selur,

-The US also has reservations against socialist projects + we have a strong cultural identity to capitalism.
-It would be difficult to provide universal health care to one of the largest and most populous countries in the world.
-Europe is culturally attached to the welfare state. If a political figure talked about a welfare state in America, people would make fun of him.

Also

Our health care, because it is not capitalist, is inefficient. Back in the the 80s, seeing a doctor cost you about $50.00, and clinics shared technology. Today, seeing a doctor costs you like $200.00 or more if you don't have health insurance. Know what the doctors did? When their special patients received a discount from HMOS, they busted up the standard price. Now people pay about the same they did then if they have health insurance, and get killed if they don't. Moreover, only 30% of the money that goes in to health care actually gets to the patient. Tell me how that isn't inefficient?

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3,038 Reply by Justinian I

(19 replies, posted in General)

I tried giving up thinking about Loz

Failed miserably

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3,039 Reply by Justinian I

(68 replies, posted in Politics)

So the Europeans are moral zealots?

I thought as much.

However, they aren't zealous enough to end trade with the US for an act of ruthlessness. At least I don't think they are that stupid.

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3,040 Reply by Justinian I

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Yell,

Lol and how would you know? You're a virgin.

Go see if your seduction method works first.

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3,041 Reply by Justinian I

(49 replies, posted in Politics)

> Han wrote:

> damn you're an expert on hookers

I'm a proud consumer.

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3,042 Reply by Justinian I

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> Loz is my style icon wrote:

> Ugh, boys. You're all the same: unhygienic and smelly tongue

WTF? I shower every day and wear cosmetic products.

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3,043 Reply by Justinian I

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> Loz is my style icon wrote:

>Justinian:
>Of course I'm not going to wear it, my mum does the laundry!

Come on! One time for a photo shoot doesn't require it to be washed does it?

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3,044 Reply by Justinian I

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Acolyte,

Whoa!

She's hot! I would totally do her. However, here I can get an escort with her hots for like $500. But elite escorts like her are intelligent and well educated, in addition to being hot. Because of their conversational rarity, they demand higher premiums. The other thing is she's from New York. Here I can get an elite escort for $1,000.

On the other end, the street hookers that charge $50.00, I recommend nobody see them. It's wrong, they are exploited and coerced by pimps, and often they don't use protection. Middle ($200) to elite escorts are careful about that, and they're at least decent looking and often independent or work through an agency.

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3,045 Reply by Justinian I

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So if a US president:

1. Brought America Osama bin Laden
2. Crushed the terrorists
3. Turned the US bureaucracy in to an efficient military machine
4. Brought world peace
5. Effectively took care of America's illegal problem by means other than amnesty
6. Was all around good for America, and the economy drastically expanded and our taxes were lowered

But

He used his personal income to hire escorts and was caught

You'd say resign and prosecute?

You'd risk an idiot  to prosecute a talented and accomplished president who is good for America for what amounted to a misdemeanor?

Hell, plenty of people argue that it should be legal. And morality? Who cares as long as the job gets done.

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3,046 Reply by Justinian I

(8 replies, posted in General)

I should have listened to everyone. Though I helped whip my family in to shape, there are families that are just dishonorable and whose players should just die.

I'm deleting.

Never playing IC again.

And I'm so mad I wish I could bribe people to pwn that family. But actually, I won't stoop lower than them.

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3,047 Reply by Justinian I

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> Loz is my style icon wrote:

> Lingerie I bought out of curiousity stuffed right at the back of my underwear drawer - hope my mother don't find that... yikes

>I think all girls are guilty of that in their adolescence!

Cool, can I have a pic of you wearing your lingerie?

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3,048 Reply by Justinian I

(37 replies, posted in Politics)

How does a non-profit organization fund a private army, a palace for the pope, massive cathedrals, television programs, and a large bureaucracy?

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3,049 Reply by Justinian I

(144 replies, posted in General)

> TheYell wrote:

> the two foot pile of clean clothes on the floor in front of my empty dresser would be awkward to explain

LOL.

Have a box of porn too by any chance Yell?

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3,050 Topic by Justinian I

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Yes, what are some embarrassing things you own?

I hope nobody finds my star wars action figure collection.

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