Topic: Vatican: new sins!

Vatican lists new sins, including pollution
Top official also cites drugs, genetic manipulations and economic injustices

AP

VATICAN CITY - In olden days, the deadly sins included lust, gluttony and greed. Now, the Catholic Church says pollution, mind-damaging drugs and genetic experiments are on its updated thou-shalt-not list.

Also receiving fresh attention by the Vatican was social injustice, along the lines of the age-old maxim:

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I agree with you there. The Church is the oldest commercial business still in existence. For it to talk to others about social injustice would be the same as Stalin giving a speech on human rights.

"In a world of global deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell

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One of the biggest Not-For-Profit Organizations.

Your bias, belays your as decidedly Anti-Catholic at the least.


Its much better to make your point, and disagree on merit, not bias.

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> Black_Wing wrote:

> One of the biggest Not-For-Profit Organizations.

Your bias, belays your as decidedly Anti-Catholic at the least.


Its much better to make your point, and disagree on merit, not bias.


hahahaha, not true tongue
i was born and rased Catholic, all of my family is Catholic, but  when i grew up, started thinking with my own head, and saw how hypocrite the Church was (this as an exapmle) i choose not to be part of it anymore tongue

so yeah, you can call me bias, atleast i have a reason to be... tongue

ROFL. Sure, they do alot of charity, but so does Bill Gates and Coca-Cola... tongue

My point is, they should look in the mirror, before they acuse other people of sin.

plus, its kinda strange how pedophilia never got to a deadly sin, even thou it was disscused for months...

but hey, whatever, all you need to confess and all is forgiven, right? wink

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THE SEVEN DEADLY SINS

Old

Sloth
Envy
Gluttony
Greed
Lust
Wrath
Pride

New

Genetic modification
Carrying out experiments on humans
Polluting the environment
Causing social injustice
Causing poverty
Becoming obscenely wealthy
Taking drugs

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/6/story.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=10497386

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The entirety of the Christian religion baffles me.

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ahhh....OK, you are not biased, ARMS.

wink


Not for Profit Org.  That is the status of the Roman Catholic Church.

Pedophiles are animals, no matter what clothes they wear.  Unless you are biased and you see a priest and assume they are a pedophile. 

Didnt know you needed the church to call pedophilia a sin to quantify it.  I dont need the church to tell me that.

They, they, they.   hmmm.  They ?  as in who ?

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lol Christianity V2.0 coming out... with more bugs than Christianity V1.1 (V1.0 was called "Pagan" smile)

The church is definitely not for profit, all the masses of land wasted with an excessive number of churches is definitely proof that they don't make anything...

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> Black_Wing wrote:

> ahhh....OK, you are not biased, ARMS.

wink


Not for Profit Org.  That is the status of the Roman Catholic Church.

Pedophiles are animals, no matter what clothes they wear.  Unless you are biased and you see a priest and assume they are a pedophile. 

Didnt know you needed the church to call pedophilia a sin to quantify it.  I dont need the church to tell me that.

They, they, they.   hmmm.  They ?  as in who ?



sure im biased, i told that already smile
You surley don't need the church to tell you any of those are sins, so whats the point in doing it anways? wink

and about pedophiles, that wasn't my point. ofc all priests are not pedophiles... tongue
it just looks bad when Vatican has an debate on whether to include pedophilia in new sins or not, for few months, and then decide not to... tongue
why having a debate on it anyways? tongue

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Bill Gates isn't arm deep in bloody piss washing the sick for forty years for free...

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oh and:

Genetic modification
Carrying out experiments on humans

that sounds like a witch-hunt on scientists, good thing church is not as powerfull as it was in the dark ages ^^

damn those heretics, i say! damn them!

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> lol Christianity V2.0 coming out... with more bugs than Christianity V1.1

More then likely this would be `Christianity BETA v4.6.33.2-CANDIDATE2`

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lol:D someone had to take that joke further on this geekfest of a forum big_smile Ok then, Christianity currently uses the "Pagan" and "Jew" packages, but they're statically linked so you won't normally notice them...

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I am for the death penalty for Pedophiles. Join me socialists in Europe and others around the world. Lets stop suing, and start killing via law. Then we can say without a doubt we did great good, and have scared all other would be pedophiles

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While I'm normaly against capital punishment child molestors should be killed with sufficient proof.

Go maturbate at home perverts.

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"One of the biggest Not-For-Profit Organizations."

Nowadays, indeed. But that was different in the past..

"I am for the death penalty for Pedophiles. Join me socialists in Europe and others around the world. Lets stop suing, and start killing via law. Then we can say without a doubt we did great good, and have scared all other would be pedophiles."

I disagree. I consider pedophiles as mentally ill people. Instead of executing them, they need to be researched, understood etc. so that we can spot and treat pedophiles better, so that they make less victims in the future. Hopefully, we can make the problem go away with that, in the end..

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I do agree. Committing paedophilic acts is a horrendous crime, being a paedophile is not. You can only condemn someone for the choices they make, not the person they are.

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Hey if they can keep it from being acted upon they are not pedophiles in my opinion, but instead mentally ill. When they act upon it then they are pedophiles.

Hang those who abuse children, counsel those who have the illness.

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Have you actually read my post Flint? tongue

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"Hang those who abuse children, counsel those who have the illness."

The problem with this is that to receive counsel to prevent them committing the acts in the first place, they have to admit to being paedophiles. And I'm sure we can all predict the social backlash there. Not all people are smart enough to make the distinction between an active, child-molesting paedophile, and a paedophile who doesn't want to be controlled by their condition and wants to seek help for it: all they'll hear is the 'paedophile' bit and the sirens'll go off in their head, and before you know it there's an angry mob marching up the garden path.

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mebbe that would be smt for another thread:)?


"Black_Wing:
One of the biggest Not-For-Profit Organizations.
Its much better to make your point, and disagree on merit, not bias."


oh boy, that made me laugh smile

though i agree ppl shouldnt need an intstitution telling them what s ugly and whats not,
but then again, where would pl get these ideas from anyways? some thin it's ok to steal, other think it's ok to kill smile

not for profit..hmz, ok, providing food and shelter etc,
but this prolly differs with time and/or place

what about power?..politics? curch mingling with other aspects of society, and getting a major influence?

if there isnt any profit, i m sure could definately some "gain" there

(edit typos, as usual:P)

till the end of time..

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At this time people are able to goto a doctor, or a pysch and get 100% confidentiality. They receive this so long as they are not a danger to themselves or others. Even if they are a danger to themselves only those needing to know are told as to protect the mentally ill person.

I know a man with an admitted sexual disorder. He believes that talking about it helps him control it. He attends bi-weekly religious meetings on it, and in a group setting. In short he is worried he has the capacity to rape. He has never done it, and I do not feel less of the man for knowing he has a problem, and for seeking help fighting his problem. In fact I feel that this man should be the stereotype for people with these conditions, if they are conditions in all (This is a debatable subject, whether all have a disorder, or just are of a mindset where this is acceptable).

Killing current pedophiles as they are caught committing acts of pedophillia does not punish to strongly past actions, but stops future actions in those who can be influenced by it. Further making available in discreet manners clinical help as well will be a big boon to those who think they have a problem, but cannot overcome it alone.

I do not call sex above 14 to anyone up to 22 pedophilia, nor 16 and up at all. I understand statistically there is going to be some relationships which are real in that age range. I feel that fighting those is a bad judgment. However rape will still be rape to me. I also say if the law of a region defines legal age, that is the legal age. Finally anything under 14 there is no excuse for in my opinion.

Btw teachers should also be hung if they have sex with a student under the age of 18 of their school. I can understand an 18 year old convincing them they are safe and all... I wont have entrapment of all students, but a teacher should ask for ID, understand it's an issue, and not have sex with under 18 regardless, but be executed for using thier influence over minors to have sex. And anyone ignoring the fact a teacher can influence minors is ignorant to boot in my opinion.

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I am going to hell for:

OLD

Sloth
Envy
Greed
Lust
Wrath


NEW

Carrying out experiments on humans> I once voluteered to be a human guinepig.
Polluting the environment> We are all guilty of this one.
Taking drugs> Although the correct wording is taking MIND DAMAGING most of us are guilty of this one: Alcohol causes brain damage, nobody can deny that one. big_smile
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why kill the teacher, and not that cool guy at the bar?
or daddy's friend? or the neighbour? or that popular guy in some senior class?
or that guy from work, heck mebbe even the boss? or the fella that started dancing really close during some spring break parteh?

do you mean a teacher of that same class, or the same school?

till the end of time..

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and lol fokker, you re very ontopic:P

and me post above this one was in answer to einstein's post

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