Yell,
Incorrect. There is a religious exemption. The controversy is over religious organizations that provide public services, such as Universities and NGOs.
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Yell,
Incorrect. There is a religious exemption. The controversy is over religious organizations that provide public services, such as Universities and NGOs.
Zarf Beeblebrix: I just discovered that code system exists here too.
For people unsure of how to use it, type code, surrounded in [], at the beginning
of the quoted material, and end with /code, surrounded in brackets.
Also, try to add enters so we don't end up with the giant scroll bar... because this
code thing doesn't translate well for paragraphs. :PTEST
Edit: FAIL
Edit: WIN !
Anthony Watts rarely submits his 'findings' to peer review.
Dismissed.
I prefer to call them an alliance of workers exercising their ability to negotiate, which differs from legally sanctioned collusion (Union). Really, a union differs little from the medieval guild.
The Weekly Standard is not a credible source. Also notice how the entire article focuses on one individual's report of the facts, which also makes it unreliable.
Not that I doubt there may be truth to it, of course. Although I have nothing against employees organizing to collectively bargain, I am opposed to the behaviors and legal benefits Unions enjoy. To me, they violate the Sherman Anti-Trust Act.
It means that the rulers can no longer buy the loyalty of the winning coalition. A financial crisis is usually a political crisis. It means that members of the winning coalition will start shopping for a different leader, and that individual will likely need to satisfy the West in order to have the money to buy the loyalty of the winning coalition.
Simon,
I'm not talking about education or health care providers for young children. I'm talking about a provider who is paid to supervise a child while his/her parents are working.
While I can understand your point about consumer reviews creating a barrier to entry for those who aren't established, newcomers can at least compete by compensating parents with lower prices and thus keep the cost of childcare down. When the government creates licensing requirements, then prices go up due to less competition and higher entry costs.
I will cheer when Constantinople belongs to Greece again. I'm sorry, I'm nostalgic for the restoration of the Byzantine Empire.
In all seriousness, I think Turkey is seizing the opportunity to take the parts of Syria it has long contested. I also think we should give Assad the choice: Abandon Putin and Iran, or die.
For example, the price of childcare has skyrocketed in some areas because the state or municipal governments imposed licensing requirements that effectively create a barrier to entry. It is also unnecessary. It's the fault of parents if they don't do their research.
You don't have to live in the jungle. You can go online and read product reviews.
Because Zarf made me move it.
Actually, the unemployment problem in the U.S. has to do with both structural and surplus unemployment.
Structural unemployment means that there is a mis-match between skills and availability. As the U.S economy has become more service orientated, the labor force has failed to adapt. This means that while there are jobs available, employers are having difficulty filling them with qualified people.
Related to our structural unemployment problem is our surplus unemployment problem. As a result of unions and labor laws (e.g. minimum wage and equal pay laws), unskilled workers are unable to negotiate their labor for less compensation.
Finally, our welfare laws create perverse incentives by punishing the poor who find work. The result is that the poor will try to maximize their welfare payments before they look for work.
So how to fix the U.S. economy?
1. Remove the laws that exempt unions as conspiracies to restrict trade, and then prosecute them for violating the Sherman Anti-Trust Act.
2. Overturn labor laws that set a minimum wage and restrict discrimination.
3. Overturn consumer protection laws that can be corrected with the flow of information and consumer vigilance ("buyer's beware").
4. Increase the supply of universities, relax general education requirements, and distribute student financial aid on a meritocratic basis.
These are very good short-term and long-term suggestions.
Now my extreme suggestions:
1. Privatize retirement and health care.
2. Create a flat tax (15%?) on all income over $30,000, allow no deductions, and eliminate corporate taxes.
3. Update the law books, and require old laws to be overturned when they are invalidated by new laws.
4. Simplify the laws. Make them easily understandable by anyone with a High School education.
5. Reduce military spending to ~300 billion.
6. Tort reform.
If we did these things right, then life in the U.S. would be improving.
Most incumbents lose the first round. Clinton was really the only exception.
> dpenguins wrote:
> justinian is just afraid of the nika revolt happening again but this time doesnt have his smoking hot wife theodora to save his ass>
LOL
3.
Unless you accept my counter proposal of returning to Federalism. Then we may have a mutually satisfactory solution.
I'm not stumbling to produce an answer at all, and my arguments are flawless. The flaw is with your insistence that political ideas be justified with these mysterious normative truths.
The strong do what they can, the weak suffer what they must. Tired of the strong? Form a coalition and destroy them. That's my political philosophy.
My argument is forceful if enough people are willing to form a coalition and assert these liberties. If social conservatives won't reach a reasonable compromise, then their objectives must be accomplished with force. It's that simple.
They are empirical in the sense that they report my values. Otherwise, yep.
I suppose we could potentially universalize them with an argument that they are essential to other values that are generally valued. For example, access to birth control and abortion serve to lift many natural barriers to entry that once deterred women from pursuing careers. A second argument could be made that cheap sex benefits society by making the population happier and reducing the prevalence of male violence.
I have yet to develop a procedure for that. But those "rights" in particular are so important to me, that if I were deprived of them, I would be in a position of having nothing to lose.
What I'm saying is that people think rights transcend the natural world and institutions, but in fact they were entirely conceived by people stuck in their ivory towers, and now they are features of Western institutions. I used them as a useful fiction to engage you without getting in to an unnecessary philosophical conversation.
To be more precise, I am not fond of my freedom to have those things legally prohibited/restricted by moral busy bodies.
> Zarf BeebleBrix wrote:
> EDIT: Two questions:
1: What is a right?
2: If you don't believe in inalienable rights, from where do rights derive?
1. A form of entitlement that someone is obliged to provide you.
2. People.
> Mister Spock wrote:
> As a voluntary slave of the state, why would anybody care what you think? You argue both that you have no rights, and that you'll get violent over your preferences... It sounds like you should be committed. You argue that you have no right to liberty, but that you'll get violent over a preference. That's hypocritical and nonsensical.
As a voluntary slave to the state, get used to the whims of your rulers or the majority. It's your stated preference. You shouldn't be telling us how you'll get violent over the results of your own preference. That just sounds like you're trolling and put no thought into the ideas you presented here.
What government are you talking about, anyway? Birth control is cheap as hell in the USA, and it's no more restricted than other medicine (which is admittedly poorly and overly restricted for the benefit of the healthcare and pharmaceutical mega industries). Sure, a bunch of people don't like it, but they hardly have the votes to get it outlawed anywhere. They have no legislative power. Hell, you can kill your kids halfway out of their mother's va-jay-jay in many places. What are you talking about?>
I'm an empiricist, so I'm not going to refer to entities that transcend the natural world and our institutions. That is why I rarely talk about rights unless it is conversationally convenient to talk about them as a useful fiction. Consequently, my political philosophy is amoral and sometimes crude. So all I can say, while remaining consistent, is that I value my liberty, and that there is only so much tolerance I have for restrictions on it.
I think you underestimate the power that social conservatives exercise in the Republican party. For example, they nearly enacted Virginia's Mandatory Ultrasound bill when it required women pregnant for less than 12 weeks to receive a transvaginal ultrasound. Even with the revision removing the required transvaginal probe, it's still an overt invasion of a woman's privacy. Also, the GOP platform included banning some forms of pornography.
That's not all of them. But those two are sufficient reasons.
> Zarf BeebleBrix wrote:
Um... and?>
There are others you haven't mentioned, although I have a philosophical problem with the term "rights." Ignoring that, taking away the first right, with some modification, is a sufficient justification for me to withdraw my consent to be governed by the state.
Modified:
1. Right to purchase contraception without government interference restricting my ability to obtain it.
2. Right to have sex with a consenting partner, regardless of marital status.
"Are you seriously saying that the right to debate out and understand the very issues upon which we define our nation is a less important right... than the right to have sex with someone without worrying about their menstrual cycle?"
I don't actually believe in inalienable rights. But a government that wants to reorganize society based on Judeo-Christian principles and restrict access to contraception is a government that I no longer consent to be governed by. Such a government crosses the line of my tolerance so far that I would forsake my loyalty to it. I would see it as having no legitimacy, and one that I would feel no restraint in using violence against it.
Alternatively, there seems to be two options. The first is to do what I have suggested: Prohibit the political participation and censor the views of religious and extremist factions. It is a more civilized alternative to bloodshed. Or two, Kemp's suggestion about returning to federalism by restoring state's rights and small government may be an acceptable compromise. That way crazies can have their theocracy in one state, and my state can remain committed to social liberty without the possibility of effective interference from the federal government. However, considering how committed to big government social conservatives are, even though they claim otherwise, it is doubtful they would ever consider such a compromise.
Although my position on limiting political expression is hypocritical, I feel justified protecting myself from the kind of restrictions on my liberty that have been articulated by social conservatives. I consider these restrictions to be naked tyranny and far from being necessary to govern a civilized society, so I feel justified in colluding with like-minded individuals to reasonably restrict their liberty in order to protect ours.
I'm not sure what Kemp's view is about tyranny or political violence, but I assume he considers it justifiable to use violence against the state under certain circumstances. However, I would rather protect myself from tyrants by restricting their liberty before it came to bloodshed. On the other hand, his idea about returning to federalism may offer sufficient protection from crazies without the potential slippery slope of censorship.
EDIT: OMG, oops! Um... Justinian... I sort of accidentally hit the "Edit" button when I was supposed to hit the "Quote" button. Sorry! Feel free to write-in what you posted here, or some facsimile thereof. Again, sorry for the error... completely unintended! ![]()
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