Topic: Birther Movement Picks Up Steam

Arizona is passing a law making it so if Obama wants to run for reelection in 2012 he has to show his ORIGINAL Birth Certificate, or he will not appear on the ballot.

Other States are rumored to be considering similar bills.


Specifically any candidate must turn over original documentation of birth to get on the ballot if running for President.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
Kemp currently not being responded to until he makes CONCISE posts.
Avogardo and Noir ignored by me for life so people know why I do not respond to them. (Informational)

Re: Birther Movement Picks Up Steam

Just get rid of him in the next election, it's more dignified.

Je maintiendrai

Re: Birther Movement Picks Up Steam

Plus you don't have to deal with the legal crap that would follow (does that mean McCain or Biden is President now, what happens to legislation Obama signed?)

Make Eyes Great Again!

The Great Eye is watching you... when there's nothing good on TV...

Re: Birther Movement Picks Up Steam

I say we blow up Yellowstone with a Volcanic Bomb, and reform the United States of What's Left.

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

Re: Birther Movement Picks Up Steam

Einstein, why is the birth certificate so important?
If the man's esteemed (by the majority of the population) to be the most apt for the job, what does it matter what his birth certificate tells you?

God: Behold ye angels, I have created the ass.. Throughout the ages to come men and women shall grab hold of these and shout my name...

Re: Birther Movement Picks Up Steam

there's a constitutional requirement that the President be a natural American as opposed to an immigrant gifted citizenship

which is interesting because we didn't have a President born a US citizen until John Tyler; everybody else was born a colonial and switched with the Revolution.

But there it is; and it comes down to honoring the Constitution or just making shit up as we go along, like China. Some of us think we're better than China.

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

Re: Birther Movement Picks Up Steam

> Wild Flower Soul wrote:

> Einstein, why is the birth certificate so important?
If the man's esteemed (by the majority of the population) to be the most apt for the job, what does it matter what his birth certificate tells you?



The US Constitution requires that a President be born in the United States.  The Constitution is the supreme law of the land, which defines the framework for how the United States is governed and takes shape.  If there is a blatant violation of the Constitution that is left unaddressed, it means the supreme law of the land means next to nothing.

Remember, the Constitution is more than simply a law.  When government officials are sworn into office, they don't swear allegiance to the President.  They swear allegiance to that piece of paper.  The nation as a whole, in dozens of wars throughout history, has fought to defend the beliefs behind that document.  The integrity of the Constitution defines the United States as a people...

Make Eyes Great Again!

The Great Eye is watching you... when there's nothing good on TV...

Re: Birther Movement Picks Up Steam

There are  writings in this world that have, or will, stand the test of time. They include  the Old Testament,  Sun Tzu's Art of War, The Illiad, the Magna Carta, the New Testament, The Declaration of Independence, and The Constitution of The United States.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
Kemp currently not being responded to until he makes CONCISE posts.
Avogardo and Noir ignored by me for life so people know why I do not respond to them. (Informational)

Re: Birther Movement Picks Up Steam

You forgot The Collected Tales of the Brothers Grimm..

<@Nick> it always scares me when KT gets all dominatrixy
* I_like_pie is now known as pie|bbl
<@KT|afk> Look at him run!
<@Nick> if you tell him to slap you and call you mommy
<@Nick> i'm leaving and never coming back

Re: Birther Movement Picks Up Steam

And the Diary of Anne Frank!

Make Eyes Great Again!

The Great Eye is watching you... when there's nothing good on TV...

Re: Birther Movement Picks Up Steam

And Harry Potter.

Je maintiendrai

Re: Birther Movement Picks Up Steam

Bleagh, I knew harry was a hocrux as soon as I'd heard of them. Can't hold a candle to Lord of the Rings


At the heart of "birtherism" is distrust of the elite and a yearning for true equality before clearly understood laws. In nearly all things, though, the elite has been shoving for a free hand to be "reasonable" about everything. Reasonable about compliance and reasonable about enforcement and reasonable about powers of the elite in the "real world", not just under the constitution. Its going to sink our country.

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

Re: Birther Movement Picks Up Steam

if the growing (sic) obesity trend doesn't first. Continental shelf or no Continental shelf all that extra weight has to have an effect.

<@Nick> it always scares me when KT gets all dominatrixy
* I_like_pie is now known as pie|bbl
<@KT|afk> Look at him run!
<@Nick> if you tell him to slap you and call you mommy
<@Nick> i'm leaving and never coming back

Re: Birther Movement Picks Up Steam

"there's a constitutional requirement that the President be a natural American as opposed to an immigrant gifted citizenship"

and i still wonder how he could have been elected if he has none...
such is usually stuff that should be checked BEFORE someone runs for a vote..

Re: Birther Movement Picks Up Steam

Why is this racist bill being used as a reason for him being illbefit as president. Obviously the majority of Americans want him in offfice, and there should be no reason that americans themselves should be overruled

LORD HELP OREGON

Re: Birther Movement Picks Up Steam

"There are  writings in this world that have, or will, stand the test of time. They include  the Old Testament,  Sun Tzu's Art of War, The Illiad, the Magna Carta, the New Testament, The Declaration of Independence, and The Constitution of The United States."

lol, what a small, bigotted list..

"there's a constitutional requirement that the President be a natural American as opposed to an immigrant gifted citizenship"

I know of this rule. But if the larger part of the population votes for Obama anyway, what does it matter? You're always going on about giving the freedom to the people to decide. They have, and they didn't care!
Besides, it's a stupid rule, get rid of it..

God: Behold ye angels, I have created the ass.. Throughout the ages to come men and women shall grab hold of these and shout my name...

Re: Birther Movement Picks Up Steam

Schniepel, esp when you consider that the democrat political party had no benifit to hiding the fact or going along with a cover up. Notice that the issue only came up in the presidential race, when if it was an issue Hillary would opf brought it up, and if it was an issue the democrat party would of gotten behind Hillary more than Obama. If anything, if there was even a sniff of legitability to these rumours the democrats then would of used them as Hillary was probably the better choice for the democrat party even if Obama is a better choice for the states.

Lifers are as bad as we-didn't-land-on-the-moon-ers or aliens-landed-on-earth-and-the-US-government-knows-and-is-covering-it-up-ers....

You cannot hide these things forever and if it was true it would hurt the democrat party much more than any possible benifit they could get from it, esp since,  as stated, they had another option that was as good and didn't have the same issue.

"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but i am Jesus"
"Nothing is worse than a fully prepared fool"

Re: Birther Movement Picks Up Steam

> Chris_Balsz wrote:

> there's a constitutional requirement that the President be a natural American as opposed to an immigrant gifted citizenship

which is interesting because we didn't have a President born a US citizen until John Tyler; everybody else was born a colonial and switched with the Revolution.

But there it is; and it comes down to honoring the Constitution or just making shit up as we go along, like China. Some of us think we're better than China.



There's a seconbd part that says anyone alive during the time of the American Revolution was also eligible to run.  That clause is now void.

The more you know!

"They are calling to us, can you hear them?... It's beautiful," Lieutenant Nathan Hale.

Re: Birther Movement Picks Up Steam

Change the law and vote Arnie in I say.

20 (edited by Chris_Balsz 23-Apr-2010 15:57:52)

Re: Birther Movement Picks Up Steam

>>I know of this rule. But if the larger part of the population votes for Obama anyway, what does it matter? You're always going on about giving the freedom to the people to decide. They have, and they didn't care!
Besides, it's a stupid rule, get rid of it..<<

A majority of Germans opposed Belgian independence! Besides its a stupid rule. tongue

just saying, if America stops giving a damn about rules, some other people are gonna feel it

particularly the rules against bribing people to buy American

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

Re: Birther Movement Picks Up Steam

Arizona law is not federal law, so Arizona can go shove their law up their ass.

=^o.o^= When I'm cute I can be cute.  And when I'm mean, I can be very very mean.  I'm a cat.  Expect me to be fickle.

Re: Birther Movement Picks Up Steam

but as we found out in 2000, states run the election for federal offices

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

Re: Birther Movement Picks Up Steam

I guess i must be right, if it was an issue it would of been an issue at the primaries where people would of cared...

"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but i am Jesus"
"Nothing is worse than a fully prepared fool"

Re: Birther Movement Picks Up Steam

snopes.com says it started in early 2008 and Obama released records in June 2008, which is late into the primary season.  The convention was August.

It could be true that Obama was born in a sloppy state that treats birth certificates as secrets.  What's the harm in demanding the letter of the Constitution be followed, here?  That they'll come for ME, next?  I had to get a certified copy of my birth certificate when I turned 18.  That anybody running for president has to bring one? whoop de crap.

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

25 (edited by &#9773; Fokker 23-Apr-2010 23:41:52)

Re: Birther Movement Picks Up Steam

> Einstein wrote:

> Arizona is passing a law making it so if Obama wants to run for reelection in 2012 he has to show his ORIGINAL Birth Certificate, or he will not appear on the ballot.

Other States are rumored to be considering similar bills.

Specifically any candidate must turn over original documentation of birth to get on the ballot if running for President.<


Wait.... NOW you want to know if Obama is legal? Left it a little late haven't you?
Just out of idle curiosity, if Obama is illegal just what the smeg can you do about it?

"So, it's defeat for you, is it? Someday I must meet a similar fate..."