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yeah why couldnt 57 cancel as soon as the "warning" was given? i think thats what Matrix was saying.

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If that is the actual cancellation msg, then Noir screwed up as well.

The NAP was cancellable as a 48h NAP is, but it has a 48h expiration period. So if that is the real story then 49 assumed things, just like your alliance assumed things previously.

Anyway regardless of all this nonsense, what is relelvant is the way people treat each others. CHeating lying and stealing, as much and as often as possible. By everyone, mods, old players, new players, it doesn't matter. It's all gone to hell smile

To me, the most annoying thing is 3157's family name. It is not possible to be any more disrespectful in IC. And this is only relevant because of who's in there, who is a good friend of mine and a person i very much respect in IC. But this is wrong.

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Thats a poorly written msg tongue

On one hand it looks like he's canceling it "hereby canceling our nap" and on the other hand he says he's letting them know early implying it's not being canceled with the msg.

Torqez rubbing it in with the family name is kinda low. Shows little class. It's all about morale fiber.

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If 57 had attacked before 48 hours of the "hereby" statement then ofc it was a major Nap break.. but they had the right to fight after the 48 hours if you think about it..

do families usually give notice to when they cancel a nap? just curious

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Fine, I agree with you regarding the Family Name.  This was done to recipricate Noir's changing of the family name first to imply that I cheated.

Yes, i agree that was a bit childish on my part to follow him.

Fam name changed.

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Duly noted and appreciated wink

Whatever happened to portgas anyway? tongue

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Nfi

He's logged in like 5 times this round hmm

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Wasn't he leading at the start though? He's always like that hmm

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He was - and it's his drafted fam hmm

I'm just a random here hmm ...my intention was to barely play lol.  In hindsight, that didn't work out all too well hmm

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Well there's no need to blow things out of proportion. Hostilizing people rarely works, and shouldn't be a solution to anything.

What is bad is this simple fact: there were supposed to be 2 big cancellation wars this round, 57/52 vs 54/41 and 57/52 vs 49/56. Look how they all turned out hmm

The game cannot continue like this, it's impossible to motivate anyone to use their free time on this crap.

I honestly don't care what everyone's reasons are, this is crossed all limits of fair play and decency and it needs to stop.

Unless people want to be so right that they have to be alone to do it that is. It's the player's choice now smile

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Completely agree.  People need to stop the deceit and trust people again.  And play fair within the boundaries of the game.  The game was a lot more fun that way.

Btw, on an unrelated issue, what's your diplo with 49?

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I will answer that ingame or in chat smile

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> Pitbull wrote:


When torqez came back on sunday after being away for a week we already had several plans and none of them included on us doing this war on March 10th.

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hmm let me guess ur plan...
Breaking on the 14th?

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Lol can you guys lie less?

This was the actual message

Week 13, 20, to T of Torqez (3157)

Due to several core breaches and unresponsiveness from 3157 leader i would like to inform you that we are hereby cancelling our nap agreement. Even tho we have a 48h nap, in the name of fairness i will let you know this early, so make the war more fair.

Official nap cancellation from 21.00 GMT March 8th, Meaning first attack can be made at tick 21.00 GMT March 10th.

Good luck to you and your family, and may we show the galaxy that fun wars can be fought despite all the garbage that has happened in this and the previous round.

If your alliance wish this war to be waged only between 3149 and 3157 that is ok with us, but notice must be given before 21.00 GMT March 8th.

Live long and prosper

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Week 13, 20, to T of Torqez (3157)

Due to several core breaches and unresponsiveness from 3157 leader i would like to inform you that we are hereby cancelling our nap agreement. Even tho we have a 48h nap, in the name of fairness i will let you know this early, so make the war more fair.

Official nap cancellation from 21.00 GMT March 8th, Meaning first attack can be made at tick 21.00 GMT March 10th.

Good luck to you and your family, and may we show the galaxy that fun wars can be fought despite all the garbage that has happened in this and the previous round.

If your alliance wish this war to be waged only between 3149 and 3157 that is ok with us, but notice must be given before 21.00 GMT March 8th.

Live long and prosper

LORD HELP OREGON

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It was the first topic of this thread, and matrix whoever he is should know he wont get away with just falsifying it

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If you look at his message lol, you can even see there is an extra spacing where he edited out that line lol, what an amateur haha

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293 (edited by Royal Whitebeard 10-Mar-2010 09:39:13)

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Noir it's loophole against loophole.

Everybody understands the meaning of your cancellation. The meaning is you wanted to give us 96hrs instead of 48hrs to prepare for war.
You write "hereby cancelling" and "Even tho we have a 48h nap...".  there are basically two cancellations in your message, immediate in the first sentence and 48hr later in two days... if looking for loopholes it could be interpreted like that.

Same to the nap between 57/52 and 49/56. The meaning was to fight at 15th of march because then all main attackers could be online and both families agreed and choose that date. But then looking for loopholes you interpreted the written agreement differently, like we interpreted your cancellation differently.

People should learn how to write agreements that are waterproof or just agree on what is really meant by the agreement.
Maybe just write it down what the meaning of the agreement is and both families confirm that they understand and accept the agreement by the meaning and not by different interpretations....

The other possibility is that naps would be prohibited if they are not made ingame. As well there should be a possibility to define a cancellation time that both sides have to agree on and before this cancellation time, no attacks would be possible. The cancellation time could be changed but only by accepting by both sides...

it's the same thing with the 35% rule. it is applied now as well for families and not only for single players. this helped IC a lot.  small families are not farmed anymore by much bigger families. So same thing we need for the relations.

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I had noticed the poor falsification of Matrix, removing the annoying part, but wasnt sure 100%

At least it's my first time in 2 days that i laugh in this game. Give this guy an award or something!!

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Kollop, the missing line doesnt change anything. if looking for loopholes it still can be interpreted differently...

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well  there is enough info here for all to see make up there own mind.
49 have just jumped 2 attackers huge so can definatly have some fun and hit back

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Re: 3149 & 3156 vs 3152 & 3157

sure, and they still have shares and/or many 1+2 tickers...

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298 (edited by Noir 10-Mar-2010 10:36:05)

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we are just down about 1k planets!! like tobes said, theres nothing saying we cant come back lol, what a sorry family

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*noir
If your alliance wish this war to be waged only between 3149 and 3157 that is ok with us, but notice must be given before 21.00 GMT March 8th.


52 took about 200 infra planets more you still don't think we aint good enoth to fight your newbish arses?
jumping with those savings a whole day late sucks m8 thats the dullest jump i've ever seen anyone do lol

Dutch bastard

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lol you consider that a jump? we didnt even spend 1/3 im just giving ppl that want to have some fun that option, it has nothing to do with fighting back.

If you didnt notice we are only taking from 57, trying to give 52 the win.

The reason we sugested only 57 and 49 was that 56 is utterly useless tongue

and dont say your attacking is good because you took 200 infra planets more lol, clearing defenceless shares is hardly an achivement hehe.

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