Topic: Dishonerable 645

No, im not talking about them picking on small families, this time its in regard to a NAP.  A NAP, that my family has followed to the letter, a NAP, that their family refuses to honor once it suits them...


this a standard 48h nap over S3 only (S1,S2,S4 not included ^^)
between families #645 and #663

border is the line between these systems (systems are owned by #645)

20,82:99 - 27,83:99 - 23,82:99 - 12,79:99 - 11,79:99 - 9,78:99 - 8,76:99 - 7,70:99 - 6,68:99 - 2,64:99 - 1,62:99 - 32,83:99 - 50,83:99 - 36,82:99 - 39,82:99 - 41,82:99 -

16 planets

all pl above these systems belong to #645
all pl beneath these systems belong to #663

compensation for an attack in S3
succesfull attack: old planet back + 1 comp
unsuccesfull attack: 1 comp


planets explored/conquered in the area that not belongs to the owner fam of the area will be given to the owner without any delay.

645 will hand over following pl:
27,87:9
663 will expo 1 pl to compensate:(player higher then 40k ntw plz)
and in 20,79:99 system

signed, nightwish leader of #645


Signed, Adriana Lima of Knightryder (645)


Is a copy of the signed NAP, please pay close attention to the border, then for those of you in MW, plug their S3 yama into your mapgen, as of current, their S3 yama is...

1,75:99 - 2,53:99 - 3,52:99 - 5,55:99 - 5,73:99 - 6,52:99 - 6,60:99 - 6,68:99 - 7,64:99 - 7,65:99 - 7,70:99 - 8,51:99 - 8,55:99 - 8,62:99 - 8,65:99 - 8,76:99 - 9,55:99 - 9,56:99 - 9,59:99 - 9,65:99 - 9,67:99 - 9,78:99 - 10,61:99 - 10,63:99 - 10,68:99 - 11,52:99 - 11,57:99 - 11,72:99 - 11,76:99 - 11,78:99 - 11,79:99 - 11,93:99 - 12,74:99 - 12,79:99 - 13,56:99 - 13,72:99 - 14,57:99 - 14,62:99 - 14,70:99 - 14,72:99 - 15,61:99 - 16,60:99 - 16,62:99 - 17,57:99 - 17,86:99 - 19,51:99 - 19,52:99 - 20,78:99 - 20,79:99 - 20,82:99 - 21,54:99 - 21,57:99 - 21,77:99 - 21,80:99 - 21,85:99 - 22,71:99 - 22,75:99 - 23,51:99 - 23,69:99 - 23,70:99 - 23,82:99 - 24,67:99 - 24,80:99 - 25,58:99 - 27,83:99 - 28,53:99 - 28,80:99 - 29,84:99 - 31,76:99 - 31,81:99 - 31,85:99 - 32,80:99 - 32,83:99 - 33,75:99 - 34,75:99 - 34,77:99 - 35,79:99 - 35,89:99 - 36,78:99 - 36,82:99 - 37,76:99 - 37,85:99 - 37,87:99 - 38,81:99 - 38,86:99 - 38,88:99 - 39,82:99 - 39,84:99 - 39,85:99 - 40,70:99 - 41,69:99 - 41,82:99 - 42,68:99 - 42,71:99 - 42,81:99 - 43,66:99 - 43,72:99 - 43,78:99 - 44,66:99 - 44,81:99 - 44,84:99 - 45,68:99 - 45,78:99 - 45,79:99 - 46,69:99 - 47,68:99 - 47,71:99 - 47,77:99 - 47,78:99 - 48,75:99 - 48,80:99 - 49,67:99 - 49,75:99 - 49,80:99 - 50,73:99 - 50,76:99 - 50,83:99 - 50,85:99 - 51,68:99 - 51,69:99 - 51,71:99 - 51,74:99 - 51,77:99 -


Their leaders excuse? "Oh, you guys dont have any planets where we have them so it doesnt matter" or "Oh, well we warred a family so thats how we got them so we dont have to give them up"


Are they joking?  Not my fault their leader decided to farm a family below the agreed NAP border.  Then what do they do? They move their DS to 21,85- well below the border to prevent us from retaking planets that are rightfully ours... From the NAP one of the clauses is..

"planets explored/conquered in the area that not belongs to the owner fam of the area will be given to the owner without any delay."


So whats up with this 645? What marvelous excuse do you have for all of this hmmm?

Re: Dishonerable 645

and when one of my players asked their leader why they set their DS to below the border his response...

"Week 16, 19
because i think the agreement must be adjusted ...

Signed, Adriana Lima of Knightryder (645)
Reply
Save "

I think that says a lot about 645's leader.

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it was a stupid nap in the first place. borders should be along the edge of you systems and your enemy's systems. keeping an area of the map that neither of you are in protected is stupid, and could even be construed as an illegal alliance between u and any family in that area that would be protected from 45.

nightwish is not right to do wot he did but if the two of you had made a sensible NAP in the first place then you wouldnt have had this problem

I was using a metaphor that means God is watching us. You've heard this, there's a toilet on the roof.

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The sensibility of the NAP is not in question arch.

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this is not even worth a uni post... bad decision on the nap, you should really only agree on borders for XX amount of days or else crap like this happens, and it seems to me gary wants basically free planets, which he is justified in especially since its the other fams nap =\

X(

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You can say it was a stupid nap all you want, but a nap agreed upon is a nap agreed upon, bottom line.

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yeah you guys just claim systems now that you aren't even in at all. What do you think we do, It was good for explo phase now its no longer kindergarden time smile

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"yeah you guys just claim systems now that you aren't even in at all."

That doesnt make it any better, we could have attacked or explored into systems above the agreed border that you werent in, but bottom line- IT WAS ABOVE THE AGREED BORDER.

Jejenum

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Oh give me a break prozac,

"What do you think we do, It was good for explo phase now its no longer kindergarden time"

So you abide by the NAP when it suits you, and when it no longer does, the NAP doesnt apply to you? Talk about dishonour.

10 (edited by Warsie 28-Apr-2008 20:19:12)

Re: Dishonerable 645

1 thing i like to say as my comment on this

we haven't attacked your fam in S3 at all when this agreement was made ; the point here is u guyz want like 150 free pl just because of a border that was set 1 week into the round ; i offered u guyz to negotiate and talk to get to an other border/agreement but all i get is ''u'r a [assortment of nasty names] , etc

also when u guyz saw us under the border my fam felt attacks just to clear em by breaking portals in stead of first asking etc

when u guyz want to talk i'll only talk to mark and he better not be drunk

Re: Dishonerable 645

I am always nice and not drunk tongue

Conquer your fear, and I promise you, you will conquer death!

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what is all this crap???

A nap is a nap, if both families agreed upon it, its a clear nap break if one side violates the terms...

The intentions gary had if setting up the nap doesnt really matter at all and its no justification for 645 to violate it. if the nap is stupid, then 645 was more stupid to sign it... as well if there is no term that allows the nap to be cancelled than 645 was even more stupid...

I dont see the point why everybody is shouthing at gary now... I dont like that guy but in this matter its just 645 who signed a crappy nap tongue

At the end its understandable that 645 violated the nap, since 663 obviously didnt want to adjust the nap. 645 just shouldnt come to uni news and whine if another fam. breaks a nap on them wink

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"i offered u guyz to negotiate and talk to get to an other border/agreement "


Oh great, so you can violate it again? Give me a break, you dont know how to follow a simple NAP, and you dont seem to understand that my family could have gotten tons of more planets if we did the same thing you did- not follow NAP.

Re: Dishonerable 645

have to agree with 663 on this one...

if 645 is so stupid to sign such a nap... then they shouldn't complain now...

645 could have cancelt that nap bevor taking planets below that line... if they didn't..

Tobi

Re: Dishonerable 645

exactly, and everyone knows matrix isnt a big fan of me, but at least he can think logically and sensibly here, if 645 is going to abuse NAP and give them over 100 planets, they should give us the something of equal value if not the planets they already have- im a reasonable man, suggestions knightryder?

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how about a Big Mac?

Everyone must be hungry...

Strength and honor

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yep, 645 and 661 is going hard at most dishonorable fam award this round:p

Sex without the e is still SX!

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hell no nolio, im definately getting that award

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Re: Dishonerable 645

hahaha nolio why pull 661 in here for dishonorable we have done nothing wrong.. i think 667 is the most dishonorable this round..

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Re: Dishonerable 645

Pretty sure its 645

Jejenum

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yeah but you're a noob and your opinion does't count portgas!

Sex without the e is still SX!

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At least someone gets a vote for something....is better than getting no votes for anything.....

Strength and honor

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Wow...645.... Keeping your main guys small across the border-> portalling-> then after being asked to removed defenses when one of our players tries to take the planets that are rightfully ares you fig run him and take the system...

Real dishonerable bunch.

Jejenum

Re: Dishonerable 645

mhmm really disapointed, i have lost all respect for them.

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As have I and they will feel my Might if they continue to void naps and be dis-honourable anymore.

Conquer your fear, and I promise you, you will conquer death!

MARK THE MIGHTY ~ System Lord Anubis ~ Poseidon