Topic: [ConspiracyNut]Information War[/ConspiracyNut]

Could the current situation regarding Anonymous and The Church of Scientology become a full-scale Information War?

"So, it's defeat for you, is it? Someday I must meet a similar fate..."

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I doubt it- I think its pretty irrelevant to normal people.

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has it been on the news / in the papers ?

till the end of time..

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"Could the current situation regarding Anonymous and The Church of Scientology become a full-scale Information War?"

Yes.  I see anon using the current conflict with COS as a way of drawing lines in the sand.

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I wonder why we don't just ignore the Scientologists until they either fade away or commit mass suicide like every other moronic cult idea.

There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

7 (edited by Acolyte 03-Mar-2008 23:36:49)

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Anonymous isn't really all that anonymous. They're from 4chan and they post in /b/. To understand the whole Anonymous thing, just look at the Internet as disparate from real life and treat everything on the Internet as a joke, including when they sound serious.

Edit: /Especially/ when they sound serious.

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Anonymous is pretty much 3 different groups, furrys, 4chans, and some other internet group.

Sadly they are all anarchists as well.

I cannot operate in that environment, so I am no longer around the action.

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> Einstein wrote:

> Anonymous is pretty much 3 different groups, furrys, 4chans, and some other internet group.

>Sadly they are all anarchists as well.

>I cannot operate in that environment, so I am no longer around the action.

I know what you mean, I'm sure you can imagine that I too have a distaste for disorder. Can't you help out another way, do something yourself?

"So, it's defeat for you, is it? Someday I must meet a similar fate..."

12 (edited by avogadro 04-Mar-2008 03:58:49)

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order is an illusion that governments throw over your eyes so that they can hold you in slavery. they tell you without their laws, without their corrupt policies, their robbery, their enforcment, the boogy man will hurt you, will ruin your life. when in truth they are the boogy man.

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I will wait for Anonymous to fail or to change. One or the other will happen, then I will get involved.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
Kemp currently not being responded to until he makes CONCISE posts.
Avogardo and Noir ignored by me for life so people know why I do not respond to them. (Informational)

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anon will wait for you to change.

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Sorry their theory of no leadership, not even temp leadership, is fail. All efforts must have leaders if they are to work. Go fail and come back saying you lost due to some other reason, and I will know it's from lack of leadership.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
Kemp currently not being responded to until he makes CONCISE posts.
Avogardo and Noir ignored by me for life so people know why I do not respond to them. (Informational)

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funny because many anon have already claimed victory...

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you dont claim victory against CoS unless CoS is utterly destroyed. They wont be killed when you remove tax exempt, they will be angry. They will be dangerously angry. You need to fight 100%, or dont get involved.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
Kemp currently not being responded to until he makes CONCISE posts.
Avogardo and Noir ignored by me for life so people know why I do not respond to them. (Informational)

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Well I don't claim to associate myself with Anonymous or anything. I will say that, in my humble opinion, market anarchy definitely seems like the most utilitarian choice for minimizing suffering in the world and sustaining peace between men. However, that is beside the topic.

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"order is an illusion that governments throw over your eyes so that they can hold you in slavery. they tell you without their laws, without their corrupt policies, their robbery, their enforcment, the boogy man will hurt you, will ruin your life. when in truth they are the boogy man."

Lol you are right, but then again, i prefer to pay taxes than seeing someone burning my house down because its funny

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> Einstein wrote:

> you dont claim victory against CoS unless CoS is utterly destroyed. They wont be killed when you remove tax exempt, they will be angry. They will be dangerously angry. You need to fight 100%, or dont get involved.

YOU dont claim victory against CoC unless its utterly destroyed, anon never claimed it was their goal. i think what you mean earlier is not that anon cant win without leadership, but that you cant win by backing anon without leadership.

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> Freelancer wrote:

> "order is an illusion that governments throw over your eyes so that they can hold you in slavery. they tell you without their laws, without their corrupt policies, their robbery, their enforcment, the boogy man will hurt you, will ruin your life. when in truth they are the boogy man."

Lol you are right, but then again, i prefer to pay taxes than seeing someone burning my house down because its funny


and whats stopping someone burning your house down because its funny? the small possibility he would be caught and put in prison, while in anarchy there would be a chance that he's caught and killed.

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Well avogadro, in anarchy, burning houses down may be acceptable by the majority, and know one ensures someone would try to cough them, will if i pay my taxes, there will always someone trying (at least in my country offcurse smile

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burning down houses being acceptable in anarchy is less likely then it being acceptable for the state to burn down houses.

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> avogadro wrote:

> > Freelancer wrote:

>> "order is an illusion that governments throw over your eyes so that they can hold you in slavery. they tell you without their laws, without their corrupt policies, their robbery, their enforcment, the boogy man will hurt you, will ruin your life. when in truth they are the boogy man."

>>Lol you are right, but then again, i prefer to pay taxes than seeing someone burning my house down because its funny


>and whats stopping someone burning your house down because its funny? the small possibility he would be caught and put in prison, while in anarchy there would be a chance that he's caught and killed.

Except that in anarchy there is no motivation for anyone to attempt to stop, catch, and kill the person burning down your house.  In a non-anarchist state we have police who are paid to do it, but in an anarchist state the only reason someone would stop a person from burning down your house is that the fire might spread to their house.

You have to remember that human beings are not kind, helpful, or courteous by nature these are behaviours brought on by the illusion of order.  In a situation where there is nothing for them to gain by helping or nothing to lose by not, people will probably just sit back and watch your house burn.

There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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"Anonymous is pretty much 3 different groups, furrys, 4chans, and some other internet group."

Ok.  I don't think it is understood what anonymous really is.  Anonymous has been around far longer than anyone knows.  It's international.  It's real world.  It's been known by many other names.  I think the Germans call it Zeitgeist.