i think everyone is failing to see what this new rule will mean

normally slow starting familys get farmed by the top half of the rankings and just get smaller and delete or lose interest.

but now they will grow and grow and 1 or 2 maybe more may end up fighting for top 15 after gains off familys there own size.

basically a more challenging round for all

> Kelivut wrote:

> > Sickening wrote:

> normally slow starting familys get farmed by the top half of the rankings and just get smaller and delete or lose interest.

I honestly have yet to see that happen.

Seriously? That's all that ever happens. Big families nap each other and rape small families. I have yet to see a round where that doesn't happen regularly.

perhaps you should work to keep a tighter core then and don't leave all these holes you are worried about for the small fams that are ruining your round by taking two to three planets a system.

Or maybe if you need that space so desperately you could try attacking someone and taking it for yourself. Of course they will have to be in your NW range now so that might be an issue for certain players.

first of all im not worried about small fams getting in my core when it is empty. i am worried about them getting in during end of round wars when opposing fams blow up my planets. the more time i think about the changes the more problems i see.

the problem is here: "Just like in the player rule, if the family attacks a bigger family (greater than the 35% limit), then the little family opens themselves up to attacks for 72 hours."

with virgo gone what is stopping someone creating new accounts until they random into a small fam they want to fight? say fam number 1 wants to fight fam number 2 but fam number 2 is too small. a player in fam number 1 can connect to a unsecured network nearby/libary network/friends network and create multi accounts until they random into fam number 2. once they get into fam number 2 all they have to do is attack fam number 1 and that opens the whole of fam number 2 up to attacks. once again this change encourages players to abuse the rules

this change is the death to pop bankers in top fams as they "unnecessarily" raise nw for the fam and indirectly result in less planets for the family. Thank you team IC

Id say, make it based on planets, not nw. Then you have a reasonable, untweakable (no fleet jumps/disbands etc) basis for the attack block...

I am not sure about this, but certainly worth trying out. It might be good for farming, but its kinda sad that the game has to enforce it
However I do think introducing this should have gone along with removing the player 35% rule.

ps. It is bullshit people can't complain. Don't you want honesty or just fake smiles..

Question about this change.

lets say, i get attacked by someone from a much much smaller fam.
Will i be able to attack everyone of that fam or only the player who attacked me?

if this is not the case.

then explain how a much bigger fam can attack a much smaller fam. Obviously only when the smaller fam has made 1 or more attacks on the bigger fam right?

PS: although this change is pretty huge, i like to see how this works out. this has already increased my interest in going SS for a round and see how that works out.

You are playing?

stupid idea......

man imagine killing nw, going full save for a week, getting your guys ported in a big fams core then jumping and killing... how easy would that be..... this would make even more farming.

if small fams really need protecting why not move every fam in the bottom 10 to a special none attacking gal after the expo stage.....

tymo? farming? Since when is attacking a fam ranked higher than yours called farming? And 35% nw is a big difference. It's nearly impossible to outsave any fam that's that much higher then you are, in case of a NAP cancellation, and if there's no NAP, the smaller fam would have to deal with the jumps and clearing attackers quite efficiently, or they'd be wasted by the bigger fam in the long run.

Calls for some real attacking, of course, but I realize that's no good for you and your (non-existent) great attacking skills, eh, tymo?

Last round i randomned 3 weeks before the end in 28th ranked fam, as banker. i had 250 plts in the middle of 92, 94 and 76. They never took a single planet from me, when they were removing my attackers and leaving me who had a bigger nw.
My attackers took planets from 92 and they never removed me (thanks them BTW) with this new rule i think i would have been removed from everywhere during the 72h window and all my fam at the same time. When u are small it's funny to farm big fams now all ur fam will shout after u if u do it

agreed