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Re: [Adoross] phpBB / vBulletin discussion

> Morbo the Annihilator wrote:
> - phpBB has more holes then a rabbit farm.
Well duh.

> - PunBB is the worst piece of %#&@ code i have ever seen.
Do elaborate. I'd like to know how you think it's piece of shit code.

> The ideal solution would be to develop something from scratch, nicely written only conforming to what the game needs.
Sure. And it'd take a day or two, perhaps more depending on how crappy the game is made (so probably a few weeks to fully integrate).

> Other then that though, it is obvious that the developer (Adoross) needs to be comfortable in the software he is integrating. The personal preference of Smartys or El Bekko is so far irrelevant its not funny.
A tool has to fit the job. Neither vBulletin or phpBB even remotely fit the job, as I have already explained.

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Hey Smartz smile

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Re: [Adoross] phpBB / vBulletin discussion

hey everyone tongue

till the end of time..

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"A tool has to fit the job."

I'm your tool!

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> Do elaborate. I'd like to know how you think it's piece of shit code.

http://punbb.informer.com/svn/punbb/tags/punbb-1.3.4/post.php

Nuff said.

> Sure. And it'd take a day or two, perhaps more depending on
> how crappy the game is made

Two days to make a forum? No wonder PunBB sucks tongue. Gathering the requirements,
creating a design and setting up a database alone would take more then 2 days...

> A tool has to fit the job. Neither vBulletin or phpBB even remotely
> fit the job, as I have already explained.

FluxBB is suitable because it has less features? Nonsense.

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Ben: Ignore skoe, he thinks any code written using a non-object-oriented paradigm is inferior. wink

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Ben: ignore Smartys, he thinks Adoross is crap even before he achieved something.

Please lads, you're worse han theologists. They also have very significant discussions apart from the fact there's nothing to discuss..

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Nice ad hominem attack WFS: keep it up wink

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define "significant", "discussions", and "nothing"

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> Ben: Ignore skoe, he thinks any code written using a non-object-oriented
> paradigm is inferior.

Object-oriented designs aren't the bees-knees, and they certainly aren't
required. I know i wouldn't use them for a websites overall design unless
that was the best way to go...

But when you have business logic, user interface, data modelling, and everything else
under the sun mashed into one file -- we call that shit coding and piss poor design.

Err, i mean, sloppy code & bad design.

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Remember that scene in "Schindler's List" where the Jewish woman goes up to a Nazi seargeant and says "I'm an engineer, you gotta do this, you gotta do that" and the commandant says "Shoot her for offering an opinion on what we gotta do" and they shoot her and then he says "OK now do what she told you"?

That's how I feel about IT

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Re: [Adoross] phpBB / vBulletin discussion

> Morbo the Annihilator wrote:
> http://punbb.informer.com/svn/punbb/tags/punbb-1.3.4/post.php
> Nuff said.

Not quite. That it doesn't conform to your ideals is your problem, but it's still one of the clearest written pieces of code I've ever seen. MVC is a good way to make small projects confusing. Not to mention templating is slow. We're working on a solution for 2.0 to improve extensibility (it's one of the reasons 1.3 failed).

> Two days to make a forum? No wonder PunBB sucks tongue. Gathering the requirements, creating a design and setting up a database alone would take more then 2 days...

No, it wouldn't. You just need to know what you're doing. Experience and all that. Try getting some before making a comment like that.

> FluxBB is suitable because it has less features? Nonsense.

Why is it nonsense? Why would you have something if it'll never be used and only slows the software down?

> Object-oriented designs aren't the bees-knees, and they certainly aren't required. I know i wouldn't use them for a websites overall design unless that was the best way to go...

Riiiiight, OO is the best for websites... dear god man, get your head out of your arse. OO design just brings extra complication and overhead to something that is inherently procedural and pretty much stateless. Please do enlighten me for what you use OO on your websites, I'm intrigued.
The last fully OO project I've had the 'pleasure' of working with was eZ Publish. Talk about OO gone wrong. You try finding a bug in a function in layer upon layer of useless abstraction.

I was planning on writing you a big explanation on it, but decided it would be useless anyway.

> But when you have business logic, user interface, data modelling, and everything else under the sun mashed into one file -- we call that shit coding and piss poor design.

And some of us call that concise and fast coding. Sure, there are some improvements to be made, but there is nothing inherently wrong with it. Once again, you just have to see what fits your goals. In the case of FluxBB there is little need for a full OO design, MVC templating, ...


> Ben: ignore Smartys, he thinks Adoross is crap even before he achieved something.

Well... it's been a laugh seeing someone accept the job. It's Adoross' choice, but I'm still quite positive he'll start crying soon.

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> Not to mention templating is slow.

Only when used incorrectly. You can actually improve performance considerably...

> No, it wouldn't. You just need to know what you're doing. Experience and all
> that. Try getting some before making a comment like that.

A) If it only takes two days, you could just make a custom forum and skip PunBB altogether -- LIKE I SAID BEFORE.
B) If it only takes two days to make PunBB, i shall laugh at your non-attempt at design. And will laugh at your puny code.



> Riiiiight, OO is the best for websites..

If you interpreted me saying "OO is the best for websites" out of my post you are an idiot...


> I was planning on writing you a big explanation on it, but decided it would be useless anyway.

Considering you can't read, yeah i'm pretty sure your writing will be useless...


> And some of us call that concise and fast coding. Sure, there are some improvements to be made, but
> there is nothing inherently wrong with it. Once again, you just have to see what fits your goals. In the
> case of FluxBB there is little need for a full OO design, MVC templating, ...

...

Read above. Please. And then pull your head out.

This is just as bad as when i said 'linux sux' and i get a 'wah wah windows sux i hate you' response.




Or are you going to cry about that too? yikes.

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