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British crooks apparently will not stab a cop, and that isnt' true of Americans, so that's the end of the argument about whether US cops could use a gat

we just had the most immensely stupid argument over here about a black professor who broke down his own front door, got stopped by a cop about why he broke down the door, apparently burped at the cop (photos showed him frowning and his mouth wide open, but he insisted he had bronchitis and wasn't yelling, so it must have been a burp) and got arrested for disturbing the peace.  It got to where Obama had them both over for a beer.

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

27 (edited by avogadro 01-Aug-2009 19:32:17)

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"Like what you said with the gangs. Well, that's your own silly problem. We, being a slightly older nation, though it would be wise to just say no to weapons. Which means no production of weapons in our country and therefore only the bigger criminals have guns."

we have tens of thousands of people smuggling drugs, guns, and people through our borders; making guns illegal, would make guns no more sparse then weed. with our massive borders, and large amounts of money to buy anything we want, the consumer and the supplier will never let the government intervene.

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you can make a compressed air rifle out of two pipes and two valves
south korea makes a nifty 9mm that has half the punch of a 9mm Parabellum firearm, fires three shots on a full charge.

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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First... why isn't this in politics???


Question: Don't the health care systems in every European country assume massively urban populations?  The United States has massive amounts of land that are extremely rural, with a very small population distribution, and little resources to use (The Midwest).

For simple economic reasons, these areas lack specialized health care access.  Put yourself in the place of a surgeon.  You can work in one town with 1,000 people, or you can work in a large urban region of 1,000,000.  The move to an urban area would have a number of advantages:

A: More possible customers overall due to population.
B: Specialists will be much more efficient in urban areas.  A heat surgeon in a town of 1,000 may see one or two heart cases every couple years, at most.  In an urban region, heart cases would happen much more often.  In addition, the amount of cases would allow the hospitals to obtain specialized equipment for said cases, further improving the efficiency of those specialists.


Now... a tax-based funding system for health care would mean we collect taxes from everyone in order to obtain the funding to pay for the entire system.  While it may help in urban regions, rural regions would be screwed.  People living in these areas would see tax increases, and little to show for it in their regions, since health care would be focused in urban areas of the country due to simple economic benefits.

And if there is a redistribution of health care resources itself to rural regions of America, it creates an entirely different problem: inefficient systems.  For the reasons I stated above, it's simply more economical to focus health care resources in urban areas, since that is where the most health issues would occur.  A redistribution, therefore, would neglect the areas that most need care, in favor of care in small towns that really don't need as much of the resources.

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"we have tens of thousands of people smuggling drugs, guns, and people through our borders; making guns illegal, would make guns no more sparse then weed. with our massive borders, and large amounts of money to buy anything we want, the consumer and the supplier will never let the government intervene."

supply and demand... retards need their toys? that's the main problem with the US, it's inhabitants.

This forum is stupid.

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> [TI] Mrblonde wrote:

> In Holland many prisons already changed to a more humane way of treating their inmates.

So far, in those prisons, it has been working out. Less people come back to prison and most actually better theirselfs.

As far as healthcare goes, I agree with those stupid reporters in the beginning: Europe is not a utopia when it comes to health care.
But it beats the American system big time.




if I'm not mistaken, the american system has the problem that "We are free to do what we want and because of that, I'm going to drink alcohol. If I don't get caught, I can keep doing it because it makes me look cool"

or the drug approach, "I can do drugs because it makes me feel good. No one knows I'm doing it unless someone rats me out"

as to the rest, they just kill for fun tongue

in either case, about 45% (assumption, I think it's a little less) of the people in the prison system right now are minor drug offenders or something that isn't major, like killing someone. Now the main concern here is that the law here dictates that (in my mind) if you break the law you should be punished. And then add in the mix guards who also hold the freedom act, "I'm a guard and these prisoners are under my control...under my control? I can do what I want to them and they can't do a thing about it!"


the main thing I think most americans forget is that beside the fact that most prisoners have wronged people in the past, they are still human beings that should be treated as such. If I were to break into The_Yell's house and kick his dog, beat his wife and shoot his kneecap, and run off with his panties, I'd be charged with a number of things, but that doesn't make me less human. Suppose I kill Elrohir, that doesn't make me less human. Slavery is what makes people less human.

I feel that the American Prison System is a system based on beating fear and pain into people so that they are so afraid they don't want to come back. Whereas I believe it should be a system of respect and attempting to help people out. Killers, yeah, they're screwed up, but minor drug offenders, come on people, you're gonna screw them over for life if you toss em in jail. There's no way they might be able to get a respectable job beyond working at wal-mart at 7.65 an hour tongue

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"I feel that the American Prison System is a system based on beating fear and pain into people so that they are so afraid they don't want to come back. Whereas I believe it should be a system of respect and attempting to help people out. Killers, yeah, they're screwed up, but minor drug offenders, come on people, you're gonna screw them over for life if you toss em in jail. There's no way they might be able to get a respectable job beyond working at wal-mart at 7.65 an hour icon39"

Americans recognize the government is a leech; the only thing that keeps us from following laws is fear of the repercussions if we dont. if prison isnt a horrible place, we will have no fear to break the laws, there will be anarchy.

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> [TI] Mrblonde wrote:

> "we have tens of thousands of people smuggling drugs, guns, and people through our borders; making guns illegal, would make guns no more sparse then weed. with our massive borders, and large amounts of money to buy anything we want, the consumer and the supplier will never let the government intervene."

supply and demand... retards need their toys? that's the main problem with the US, it's inhabitants.




the main "problem" with the US is that we focus on the individual, we produce and grow while europe stagnates and dies.

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you can mandate no prison time for drug users but you can't stop employers from doing drug screening tongue

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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yes, avo... quite right... your dollar is increasing massively while our Euro is just losing grip.

This forum is stupid.

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wow, blonde, boiling economic growth down to the exchange rate of two currencies, thats stupid even for a european.

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Yup, works though...

This forum is stupid.

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if by "works" you mean "completely fails" then i'll agree with you.

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Then don't.

This forum is stupid.

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This forum is stupid.

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"the main "problem" with the US is that we focus on the individual, we produce and grow while europe stagnates and dies."

Yup, that's exactly what GM is doing, growing!

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42 (edited by Simon 04-Aug-2009 10:17:59)

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"we have nurses who only earn a little more than McDonalds workers!...."

If you're talking about the states you're completely ignorant. Just to be clear, we're talking about registered nurses?

http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Registered_Nurse_(RN)/Hourly_Rate/by_City

show me your regular mcdonalds worker earn $20+/hr.

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WFS, you obviously can't base the US economy on one company.

Oh wait, you can.

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And Simon... you obviously can't read.

This forum is stupid.

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I'm curious, just how and when did the uk come up with their socializer healthcare?

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wow IGP haven't seen you forever!!!

think in the 40s

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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NHS was established in 1948. Dental is only partially covered by it.  Most people end up paying fr denta.

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or not going to the dentist (as often) ? tongue

till the end of time..

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that explains a LOT

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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i know xDDD

till the end of time..

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lulz