Re: North America = Sports Nirvana

> avogadro wrote:

> ..... in football, a receiver will be running straight and at top speed to catch a ball, a safety will be running from the opposite direction at full speed to hit the receiver, the receiver has to take the hit straight on inorder to catch the ball, it is way harder then you get in rugby; you can't slow down or change your direction to lessen the blow, you have to take it full on....



..... with armour and helmets in a situation that happens a couple of times a game. Normally there is a chance to side step or get ready for the hit.

Around in circles a bit there.

Rugby league - like rugby union but different (not going to explain) - is more like this, those guys get beat up a lot.

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Spin it however you want, football is a horrible, horrible sport. Now, maybe its fun to play, but i
don't understand how you can sit in front of the idiot box for an hour and watch two lines of people
moving back and forth attempting to move a small object from one end of a patch of grass to
the other.

Boring.

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my cousin was killed on a Rugby field. He was playing Rugby League I believe.

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79 (edited by Chris_Balsz 17-Jun-2009 15:38:28)

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>>Spin it however you want, football is a horrible, horrible sport. Now, maybe its fun to play, but i
don't understand how you can sit in front of the idiot box for an hour and watch two lines of people
moving back and forth attempting to move a small object from one end of a patch of grass to
the other.

Boring.<<

ohhhh I get it, in soccer they don't form a scrimmage so it's interesting, like watching a sugar cube melt in water?

the interesting part is that you know the guy who will get the ball has some kind of plan, that line is gonna try to move in a planned way so he can throw it to a guy standing at a planned place, or maybe somebody will run past him and grab it and try to run downfield, or maybe the QB means to run it in himself around the line, or maybe even through the line.

And the defense has a plan, maybe a defensive plan to cover the runners, maybe they're gonna blitz the QB and throw him to the ground

if you REALLY know the teams then you know each guy in the line and you got a strong guess what the QB is going to try.  It also depends on whether it's 1st down (he's got 3 tries at moving 10 yards, so that's usually a time to take risks) or 3rd and 12 (either they make 12 yards or they'll probably punt the ball to the other team, so that is probably not a time to try running the ball right through the defense.  Long pass very likely)

so every time they face off it's a new situation, and they might do something so dramatic you'll be arguing about it for 40 years (Immaculate Reception http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZi2ryWsShY btw if it hadn't been the last play of the division championships they wouldn't have gone for it on 4th and 10.  they'd rather concede the ball game than risk injuries sad  )

Also please note in that video the PROPER way to tackle, none of this groping and falling off.

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All American professional sports can be performed by fat people, our original European sports can not.

That's all I have to say hmm

This forum is stupid.

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> Also please note in that video the PROPER way to tackle, none of this groping and falling off.

You are so full of it Chris. The sad part is you don't even realise it. If what you say is true, it's as if somehow in the NFL, good running does not result in missed tackles.

I have no idea who this guy is, but people fall off of him in the first example of his running (and I'm sure in the other 9 as well). If people didn't sometimes miss tackles in either sport, you wouldn't go anywhere. Well in NFL I guess you could because you can still throw the ball down the field when you get too tired to run.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9gZAyeRdNo

Thanks for your video, I scanned through parts of it. I noticed a few group tackles which you tried to talk down earlier.

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I can just see people rushing in without looking and then jumping head first, great tactics

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>>my cousin was killed on a Rugby field. He was playing Rugby League I believe.<<

Gah, internal injuries?

>>I can just see people rushing in without looking and then jumping head first, great tactics<<

If you don't duck when you hit, you can get paralyzed when your neck tries to bend in an S

>>If what you say is true, it's as if somehow in the NFL, good running does not result in missed tackles.<<

exactly.  EVERY time a defender can get two hands on a runner and that runner does not go down that is the defender's FU.  No exceptions.

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Soccer is boring to watch on the TV too.

And cricket, tennis, water polo, netball, baseball, hockey (the kind on the grass),
golf, ...

Basketball is ok every now and then. Not too often though. Ice Hockey might be
okay. Never tried to sit down and watch it on TV, so i cant say.

And and do note that i'm talking about watching it on ~TV~. I can understand the
atmospheric conditions at 'the game' that would entice people to go to it (every
now and then). I can also definitely understand the awesomeness that is actually
playing a sport...

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What makes American football enticing to Americans is because it is so different from all the other sports games.  Baseball and Cricket are similar games (not the same, but similar).  Hockey, Polo, Football/Soccer, Rugby, Basketball...they're all very similar when it comes to gameplay - they're fluid.  The difference between those sports is whether or not you use your hands, feet, or stick (and obviously rules) and the field of player (grass, dirt, ice, water, etc.).  However, American football is nothing like Rugby and Rugby is nothing like American football.

American football is a game of strategy.  Think of it as a war game.  You have two armies, one offense, the other defense.  Each one has a formation, has a plan.  If you look at the formation of an offense team on the field, you generally have a strong center and your flanks are the ones attempting an envelopment.  The defense has a strong center as well, but because they don't want to be flanked, they have guys spread out to catch those breakthroughs.  The enticing part is that although you see the formations, they aren't always what they appear to be or they never go according to plan ("no plan ever survives the first shot").

Think of American football as a wargame and you suddenly realize why there are dozens of players per franchise and they are specialized into certain teams - offense, defense, and special.  I am not saying that Rugby or Soccer or Basketball has no level of strategy.  On the contrary, they do, but it isn't as planned/thoughtful as it is more fluid and reactive.  Strategy in fluid sports depends on your one position throughout the game and the prowess of the individual player.  Strategy in American football depends on the overall ability of the team with a powerful center, nimble flankers, and a strong and accurate commander.


I guess my point is, respect the sport for what they are, the concepts they hold, and the actual depth of play involved.  Yes, to those who have never experienced the sport, or went to see the sport with a fixated mindset beforehand, it doesn't appear to be very fun or very interesting.  When you look at a sport, look at the rules, watch the game, but above all, understand why those players play the game in the first place.

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Sir Supall,

I've played american football a little, and watched the game whilst drinking and travelling the US, and had some good times (not always, sometime zzzz). But the point is the thread was started by someone trying to say that the sports in his part of the world are the best whilst trashing other sports. Of course we are going to say why we think he is wrong and so unfortunately you should write something similar but about rugby and direct it to the guy who started the thread smile

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Oh no you don't

/grabs econ and supall and drags them back down into the Pit

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88 (edited by Justinian I 18-Jun-2009 08:45:01)

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Basketball is so stupid there shouldn't even be a league for it. It pretty much amounts to a game of black people bouncing a ball (no racist message intended).

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Basketball has nothing to do with race. It can be an interesting sport to watch every now and
then.

Morbo: Morbo can't understand his teleprompter. He forgot how you say that letter that looks like a man with a hat.
Linda: It's a 't'. It goes "tuh".
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