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Topic: North America = Sports Nirvana

To spare all those other sports threads we could argue in here

Our basball gloves are not that padded, they're just larger.

And our football players don't wear all that much armor, just some sensitive joints and the shoulders which are a striking surface.

Some of our linebackers are close to 350 lbs, 160 kg and yet their legs are so strong they can dunk a basketball

Your 5'4 rugby players would take 50% casualties in the first scrimmage

And as for our soccer, ok it sucks but we have better fans

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wot do you mean by 'better' fans exactly? I think ours are more devoted tongue

And there arent that many 5'4 rugby players. The shorter ones are only there becos a shorter person generally fits that position better. There are plenty of Big guys in rugby as well tongue.

I was using a metaphor that means God is watching us. You've heard this, there's a toilet on the roof.

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Better as in "don't kill people or gut stadiums with fire, or start wars"

You may be unaware how far things go in Latin America tongue

I don't think there's a 5'4" guy in the NFL, even a punter, cause there's obviously only one thing to do--let the shrimp get possession, and then blitz

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> Chris_Balsz wrote:

>And as for our soccer, ok it sucks but we have better fans

lololololol big_smile

good one big_smile

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160kg is just not healthy X(

I'm 21 and I've tackled/been tackled by plenty 120kg+ rugby players..and have had to tango with someone 6'8" as my opposite number for 80 minutes X(. Point being..rugby players can take hits..and have grown up taking them without protection.

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6 Reply by Econ (edited by Econ 14-Jun-2009 19:42:38)

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ohhh the shite you come up with.

We don't need armour. Your guys at the front are fat. Supremely fat. They play for 2min and then have a rest. There are 48 players on a team becase, even with those rests they still can't play an entire game, and if they defend, they probably can't attack. One guy can run and/or catch, one guy can throw, one guy can use his fat to wrestle and block the other guy, one guy can kick.

This video starts off bloody, and goes into big hits. That they take and give without armour.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8v-qZFVYnc

An example of handling you'll be lucky to see in football.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOxGJfZkh08&

Edit: Just a random video that I didnt actually watch (most of these I didnt, but they seem good)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcF5A48FUko

How regularly can one guy in football trample the opposition like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsXTa7UCGlk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvR8CsGcwyQ

Don't get me started on your stupid baseball gloves, because you can't catch with out it. FYI, cricket balls are harder than base balls, but travel about the same speed 90-100mph. Got one on the toe the other day, which broke it. Yet cricketers don't need gloves to catch them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3DDLs2CRkY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IOHVlQ43GM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir2y5NgHRs4

Baseball catches can look similar to these, but WITH a massive glove.

Ever wounder why american sports never took off outisde of america.... excepting Basketball, but you guys hardly ever win that in international competitions.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/8095893.stm

the highlights from the W.Indies - India match on friday have some nice catches in the first 2 and a half minutes, showing you that those youtube ones aren't just rare occurences. Cricket players always catch like that, without gloves

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>>160kg is just not healthy <<

just cause they sometimes flop down dead in training proves NOTHING!!!!

>>How regularly can one guy in football trample the opposition like this?<<

Any given Sunday tongue

I saw those clips, good running and blocking, abysmal tackling, you guys need to learn to bench 250kg, there's no excuse to get two hands on a runner and not pull him over

and over here we banned the forward lateral pass, if you're ringed by 8 goons you may NOT throw it across the field to a pal

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"I saw those clips, good running and blocking, abysmal tackling, you guys need to learn to bench 250kg, there's no excuse to get two hands on a runner and not pull him over"

They don't have armour with which to get a grip on.

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its not forward? it's against the rules of rugby to pass forward under any circumstances, always have to pass to a player behind you. And why would you not pass it away if you're about to get absolutely mauled anyway? The idea that you have to hold onto the ball and get jumped on seems a bit counterintuitive for creating a tactical game/sport surely? tongue

And if someone gets two hands solidly onto another player, he will generally go down. But that doesnt happen as often as the video must have made it look. normally u end up grabbing the fabric of their shirt accidently. There's no padding to grab onto like in american football

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11 Reply by Econ (edited by Econ 14-Jun-2009 20:45:42)

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Not running full speed any sunday. I have watched american football and they tend to do it while standing still.

Tackling was poor because the attacker was good, or moving fast or whatever. Heres a random video of good tackles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz0_An6RH5k

I dont know how much rugby players can bench. See they have to do several things at once. They could train and get up to 250kg if they wanted, but then they wouldnt be able to run around for 80min, the would need to rest every min and go sit down for half the game, like american football. oh yeah, never thought about lack of padding to grab onto.

I dont get the point you are making about lateral passes.  You can not throw forward at all in rugby, so you actually have to run and bash and force your way up the entire length of the field whilst passing the ball backwards.

How about their show off crap. In american football, if you tackle someone or do something that you are expected to do every minute, all of a sudden you have to have a disco party.

How about kicking skill. This is an every-match occurance, I suppose similar in some ways to american football. Except this guy can kick and run and pass and tackle, he doesnt sit there for 2hrs and come on the field twice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s1-peSQF_E

This one isnt every day skills, but lets see a american football guy do it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INd7Es_dqTY

cute, this isn`t international level though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L547C-wlKfY

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Re: North America = Sports Nirvana

> Archangel wrote:

> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/8095893.stm

the highlights from the W.Indies - India match on friday have some nice catches in the first 2 and a half minutes, showing you that those youtube ones aren't just rare occurences. Cricket players always catch like that, without gloves


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NFL players are all on steroids!

and they have no stamina at all.

the game stops every 4 seconds & if that wasn't enough there's two separate teams for Offense & defense- without forgetting the 4 quarters.

American footballers couldn't play rugby because they wouldn't be fit enough and would fail the drugs tests anyway.

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the videos of Jonah Lomu are not representative of rugby in general. as a sport it turned professional in 1995. Jonah Lomu happened to be a huge player 6' 5" in an era when the game was mainly amateur and fellow wingers were often no taller than 5'10". he was rumored to have used drugs to boost his muscle as he weighed some 18 stone & could run very fast. against fellow wingers he could easily have had a 5 stone or 6 stone advantage. (70lbs-84lbs)

Rugby has moved forward a LONG way since then. Players are taller, bulkier and much fitter. the shortest players on the pitch tend to be about 5'9". though there are exceptions.

Although a phenomenal player between 1995-2000. had he been born a decade later he would not have had the same impact. like I said players are much bigger now plus Rugby Union has adopted many defensive tactics first employed in Rugby League (a 13 player variant of Rugby Union). back in the old days defenses were hap-hazard to say the least.

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> Econ wrote:

> > Archangel wrote:

> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/8095893.stm

the highlights from the W.Indies - India match on friday have some nice catches in the first 2 and a half minutes, showing you that those youtube ones aren't just rare occurences. Cricket players always catch like that, without gloves


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ah balls :S

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16 Reply by avogadro (edited by Wild Flower Soul 15-Jun-2009 11:08:37)

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"We don't need armour. Your guys at the front are fat. Supremely fat. They play for 2min and then have a rest. There are 48 players on a team becase, even with those rests they still can't play an entire game, and if they defend, they probably can't attack. One guy can run and/or catch, one guy can throw, one guy can use his fat to wrestle and block the other guy, one guy can kick."

its call specialization you dumb [powerranger]. and it results in a much higher caliber of play then when people have to be on the field the majority of the game. you have people give it their all for 2 mins, and no one matches their all on a rugby game for the entire span of the game, because they have to last the game; its call comparing a sprinter to a marathon runner, the marathon runner isnt going to match the sprinter's performance at any point in his marathon. the hits in every rugby video shown here is pathetic.

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as for best supporters, check this out tongue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPZdeXJ0yx4

or just http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=dutch+football+fans+euro+2008+basel&aq=f

try claiming that again >=]

there were 150-200k dutchies in switzerland at that point, which is more than 1% of the total population.

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18 Reply by EmperorHez (edited by Wild Flower Soul 15-Jun-2009 11:07:37)

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lol americans can't take criticism of their beloved steroid abusing NFL players.

when a guy gets so big that his knees struggle under the strain that is not specialization- that is being a dumb [facteur].

American footballers couldn't play rugby because a) they'd fail the drug tests b) they don't have the stamina. they'd be calling timeouts every 10 seconds.

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The Yell has a strange view of what a rugby player actually looks like tongue

Here is the British and Irish lions starting XV for the last match they played

Backs
Rob Kearney (full back, 6'1", 198lbs)
Tommy Bowe (winger, 6'3", 212lbs)
Keith Earls (centre, 5'11", 198lbs)
Riki Flutey (centre, 5'11", 205lbs)
Ugo Monye (winger, 6'2", 202lbs)
Stephen Jones (fly half, 6'0", 209lbs)
Harry Ellis (scrum half, 5'10", 190lbs)

Average Back (6'2", 202lbs)

Forwards
Andrew Sheridan (prop, 6'5", 262lbs)
Matthew Rees (hooker, 6'2", 238lbs)
Phil Vickery (prop, 6'3", 275lbs)
Donncha O'Callaghan (Lock, 6'6", 243lbs)
Nathan Hines (Lock, 6'6", 256lbs)
Joe Worsley (flanker, 6'4", 253lbs)
Martyn Williams (flanker, 6'1", 220lbs)
Andy Powell (no. 8, 6'4", 244lbs)

Average forward (6'4", 249lbs)

All heights and weights are taken from wikipedia, I even converted from stones to pounds for you:P. I can't be bothered doing this for an American football team seeing as there are so many players on an individual team. On that subject I have always found it quite bizarre how many players there are on an american football team, why is there a seperate team for offence and defence? Retarded!

The hits in rugby are no smaller than in american football, the only diference is the lack of padding. Although padding is creeping into rugby, but I don't like that either.

Cricketers catch balls without the use of massive gloves. Cricket balls are just as hard and move just as fast as baseballs

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good post SD & by that starting line-up I'd say the backs were actually a bit on the small side compared to some lineups I've seen where there's nobody under 6'1".

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btw, some massive claims going on from the Yell which have somehow gone unchallenged.

"our football players don't wear all that much armor"

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/SSPOD/SuperStock_1189R-3511B-FB~Portrait-of-an-American-Football-Player-Posters.jpg

Really?

"Some of our linebackers are close to 350 lbs"

The following are the weights in pounds of New York Giants' current roster of linebackers (I chose a team at random) again according to wikipedia

247
223
245
249
236
239
237
238
256
240
231

Average = 240lbs

So the average linebacker (the position that the yell seems to suggest produces heavy players) is 9lbs lighter than the average rugby forward tongue

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Hez, I just chose a team at random. I didn't want to intentionally choose a big line up because that would skew the result

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> EmperorHez wrote:

> lol americans can't take criticism of their beloved steroid abusing NFL players.

when a guy gets so big that his knees struggle under the strain that is not specialization- that is being a dumb [lawnmower].

American footballers couldn't play rugby because a) they'd fail the drug tests b) they don't have the stamina. they'd be calling timeouts every 10 seconds.


there are drug tests in american football.... just because you guys are scrawny [slackbladders], doesnt mean we have to take steroids because we're stronger then you.

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Avo, maybe you should read the last few posts I made. American footballers are not bigger than rugby players.

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they just look it becos of the armour. They need it to look scary tongue

I was using a metaphor that means God is watching us. You've heard this, there's a toilet on the roof.

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