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Re: North America = Sports Nirvana

just for the record that Rugby turned pro in 1995- but it was still very much amateur in many ways. classic example is fitness levels. The Welsh rugby team for example would play a good 60mins, let in a pile of tries in the last 20mins because of lack of fitness. the Welsh rugby team of today is far different. rugby players are bigger & there's no fat forwards anymore than today.

Jonah Lomu was rumoured to have suffered his kidney disease due to drug abuse, nothing has ever been proven-  I've heard a few things from insiders that's all.

as for Dahani Jones he only played the last 10-20mins of the rugby match for Blackheath RFC.

as for drugs in the NFL- heck it's been reported in High School Football!
the United States is renowned for drug cheats. In the UK drug testing his HUGE. my sister plays Rugby and she get's drugs tested ALL THE TIME! (she plays for the countries top University team- UWIC)

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that penalty was for hands at the ruck, not for the obstruction

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Monster truck rally > Formula One

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haha tongue

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if that was directed at me SD, i know how rugby works tongue...i was just referring to an example of "being tackled without the ball"..that being rucking.

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> Monster truck rally > Formula One

Oh look at meh! I can look at cars going around in a #%*$ing circuit!
Never seen a monster truck rally though. That might be partially interesting.

> Morbo..i dont see anyone crying like a beeech here because they're being "tackled" without the ball

Once in 50 years isn't impressive. And they weren't strategically tackling people without
the ball either.

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> Econ wrote:

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I didn`t read all of your dribble, because you didn`t read what I said. I quoted it above, let me try again here:

*Im not wasting time investigating this, but thats what 5min dragged up.*
*Yup they say `now banned` so perhaps they wouldnt have taken them if they were banned when those retired players were still in the game.*
*Who knows. Just presenting the info (I found in 5min) on this one*


i read all of yours and you're trying to show how you know that steroids is a larger problem in the NFL then in Rugby leagues, and you completely failed you dumbass.

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Morbo..quit arguing about stuff you know very little about to people who know it quite indepth X(..damn all you trollz!

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I think this is the appropriate thread to say yeah, Superbowl, Stanley Cup, Pittsburgh owns all you bitches... now if they Pirates could just stop sucking for nearly 20 years!

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"And they weren't strategically tackling people without
the ball either."

No they weren't. Because that would be against the rules. It is against the rules because it is pointless and inhibits exciting running gameplay. If it were allowed it might even lead to developments such as players whose sole job is to run into each other when neither has the ball in order to stop each other getting anywhere and as a result making each other entirely redundant. Now, wouldn't that be stupid eh?

And I don't think I have ever seen rugby players crying or moaning. They stamp each other, gouge each others eyes and even just blatantly fight (i'm not saying any of these are good things, although stamping is often an important part of rucking) but they always just get on with it. It is a very honourable game in that respect. There is a culture of respecting the referee which is unfortunately missing from other games such as football (soccer to you americans)

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Myeahh..stamping/raking hurts though sad - I'd prefer it if the game just struggled without its convenience. Over the years I've received broken fingers, bruised ribs, and permanet scars from it alone (not that any of that took me off the pitch wink..apart from when I was knocked out pissing blood from the head..but I went back on in 10mins when the bleeding stopped - put a scrum cap on). Then again its probz my fault more than anything for getting into those situations ... too enthusiastic with rucking tongue

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If you don't want rucking you can always play league. It's quite a bit more one dimensional than union (although still not more so than gridiron) but is still fun to play, because let's face it, the fun bit of rugby is running with the ball and riding tackles rather than rucking.

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> it is pointless and inhibits exciting running gameplay

Don't worry, no chance of that!

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I'm sure as hell not defending Rugby, but I'm quite sure one frenchy could beat anyone you can throw at him that plays in the NFL.

http://www.seatwave.nl/filestore/SEASON/IMAGE/france-rugby_001935_1_MainPicture.jpg
Sebastien Chabal.

He's a caveman capable of taking down anyone twice his size. He might just tackle elephants for the heck of it.


And there's just one thing with all your american sports: you're lazy.

NFL: as said before, 4 quarters, nobody runs for more than 20 seconds and then takes a 10 minute break.

NHL: most are quite athletic, but still get substituted after 10 minutes or so.

Your baseballs league: most of the batters haven't even see their own penises in years.


And for more there's only one football in the world, and your country is only hoping they can catch up with us Europeans when it comes to that.

This forum is stupid.

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> Your baseballs league: most of the batters haven't even see their own penises in years.

lmao

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its not that we are lazy, its that we arent faggots who need to minimize possible substitutions to avoid a lvl of gameplay that would cripple you weaklings.

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> Morbo the Annihilator wrote:

> > it is pointless and inhibits exciting running gameplay

> Don't worry, no chance of that!


Too bad that many people don't agree with you:
"Remember that in the first Rugby World Cup, in 1987 the game was amateur. In 2003, the Rugby World Cup will be the third largest sporting event in the world after the Olympics and the Soccer World Cup. The 1999 Rugby World Cup in Wales was attended by 1.75 million people and broadcast to a further three billion people in 150 countries,"

A little old, but it was the first thing that popped up.

By comparison:
"A frequently-misquoted figure from NFL press releases has led to the common perception that the Super Bowl has an annual global audience of around one billion people. In fact, the NFL states one billion as the game's potential worldwide audience

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> avogadro wrote:

> its not that we are lazy, its that we arent faggots who need to minimize possible substitutions to avoid a lvl of gameplay that would cripple you weaklings.


hahahaha. Yes, every rugby player in the world is a "faggot". Your powers of debate are strong, I don't know why I ever tried to compete with you.

Take your pads off and play consistently (ok rugby players have a few min break when someone commits a penalty, so we will allow you that, but no changing the whole team), then we will see who the weaklings are. It has already been shown that Balsz' comments about height/weight etc were wrong. Go watch a rugby match, or even the first you tube video I posted in this thread (I think it was the first one) then compare it to NFL.

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> Econ wrote:

> > Morbo the Annihilator wrote:

> > it is pointless and inhibits exciting running gameplay

> Don't worry, no chance of that!


Too bad that many people don't agree with you:
"Remember that in the first Rugby World Cup, in 1987 the game was amateur. In 2003, the Rugby World Cup will be the third largest sporting event in the world after the Olympics and the Soccer World Cup. The 1999 Rugby World Cup in Wales was attended by 1.75 million people and broadcast to a further three billion people in 150 countries,"

A little old, but it was the first thing that popped up.

By comparison:
"A frequently-misquoted figure from NFL press releases has led to the common perception that the Super Bowl has an annual global audience of around one billion people. In fact, the NFL states one billion as the game's potential worldwide audience

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[see above]

zzzzzzzzz your troll has failed.

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> Econ wrote:

> > avogadro wrote:

> its not that we are lazy, its that we arent faggots who need to minimize possible substitutions to avoid a lvl of gameplay that would cripple you weaklings.


hahahaha. Yes, every rugby player in the world is a "faggot". Your powers of debate are strong, I don't know why I ever tried to compete with you.

Take your pads off and play consistently (ok rugby players have a few min break when someone commits a penalty, so we will allow you that, but no changing the whole team), then we will see who the weaklings are. It has already been shown that Balsz' comments about height/weight etc were wrong. Go watch a rugby match, or even the first you tube video I posted in this thread (I think it was the first one) then compare it to NFL.

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we take our pads off and people would die every single game because of the force we use to tackle. people die often in football, thats why we added the pads. you rugby players cant hit for shit and thats why you can play without pads, they're abunch of weaklings.

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You showed one roster for one team, then refused to look further that does not "prove" me wrong

Avo is right, people die and have been paralysed in football

I saw econ's video and your guys apparently NEED 6:1 odds to bring down a runner

In the NFL you better train do it 1:1 or learn to sell beer in the stands

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FFS Chris. I already told you to supply it because you are the one making claims that you can't back up. Too difficult to understand? Either that or the team is a good average and so you don't want to admit it.

The ignorance of both of you is breathtaking! Here's some 1 on 1 hits for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNILNYz8ztA

You claiming that NFL doesn't have big group tackles? hahahaha good one! And BTW, charging at someone with your head down whilst wearing a big helmet as a battering ram does not involve any skill!

You seem to think that number of injuries is a good way to measure how good sport is, or how tough the players are Go look at the first video. There is blood pissing everywhere and the guys get up and walk off calmly. People die and get seriously injured in rugby. Being ignorant must be blissful for you... I'm not going to look up stats of people getting injuring and dieing and claiming that it's somehow a good thing.

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I missed this one.

> EmperorHez wrote:

> The Welsh rugby team for example would play a good 60mins, let in a pile of tries in the last 20mins because of lack of fitness. the Welsh rugby team of today is far different. rugby players are bigger & there's no fat forwards anymore than today.

It's still like that for the AB's in many games. Many teams can go equal for them for 60min, and then in the last 20 the ABs run away with it. Obviously not always, but often.

>Jonah Lomu was rumoured to have suffered his kidney disease due to drug abuse, nothing has ever been proven-  I've heard a few things from insiders that's all.

BS. Don't give me any "insiders" BS. Tell that to Jonah's face and see what his reaction is.  Do some research (edit, about the disease), don't listen to rumour, and perhaps you should consider why Adidas sponsored him for so long, even after he stopped playing.

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"People die and get seriously injured in rugby. "

i dont doubt it, but the frequency that it would happen in american football would be insane without pads.

and blood? oh my, they got cut alittle, so what? and i've seen that video, and the hits are pathetic comapred to those of american football. in football, a receiver will be running straight and at top speed to catch a ball, a safety will be running from the opposite direction at full speed to hit the receiver, the receiver has to take the hit straight on inorder to catch the ball, it is way harder then you get in rugby; you can't slow down or change your direction to lessen the blow, you have to take it full on, even if its 2 people coming from opposite directions at full speed.

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