Re: Take that Netherlands!

> Chris_Balsz wrote:

> Um yeah you need to do more against that sort of crazy, he got way too close to the bus

I hear he lost his job and his apt
Should just jump in a canal then instead of ram people
Good thing he's dead



Today I read in the newspaper those reasons are probably why he did the killing.
He lost 2 job within a year, his appartment, all his money and had no friends.

His childhood friend remembered he ever said something like: "If they take everything of me, I have no reason to live and will end my life."
Offcourse nobody would have known he would do it this way. sad

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27 (edited by BiefstukFriet 02-May-2009 19:40:26)

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""NOT tank trap, meter-high concrete blocks...try those Dutchies.

damn, now Americans gotta teach the Dutch how to build walls! we're THAT GOOD"


Are you trying to come over as an asshole? I had thought better of you. We know bloody well how to make concrete roadblocks, but we've never needed them. The last time someone tried to assinate a member of the Royal family was in 1584..

The strenght of the Dutch royalty is its closeness to the Dutch people, fencing of the Royals behind concrete roadblocks, trucks and soldiers just won't do. And we sure as hell don't need an American smartass to tell us how to do things.

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We can start making 9/11 jokes now in retaliation?

Euros gotta stick together.

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9/11 was a horrible event, no need to open old wounds.

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You make me sick X(

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Says a French idiot.

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Yeah I was being a smartass, and yeah you apparently need an American smartass to do your thinking for you

do you romanticize away the need for dikes?  If somebody wants to drive a car into your Queen all the loyalty and love ain't gonna stop their vehicle.  That takes a big fat concrete block.  you can still let pedestrians walk around. 

when people know they can't kamikaze your queen then no matter how stupid sad they are, they won't bother
nobody is so crazy and desparate they want to be remembered as "that wacko who failed to kill the Queen"

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

33 (edited by BiefstukFriet 02-May-2009 21:04:21)

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He WAS the wacko that failed to kill the Queen, he was that desperate and he was that crazy. The extent of his plan was to ram a big f'ing bus.

Like I said previously, this is not the USA or France, we never had the need for concrete roadblocks, we don't have a history of assasination attempts on our leaders. When Obama went away from the planned route and talked to the crowd for ten minutes, everyone was in an uproar and amazed he was taking such a risk. Around here it's the normal thing to do. I can still remember how the Queen's late husband took a complety unknown woman on a ride on the back of his bike during a previous Queenday celebration, and the nation loved him for it, it's why are Royals are so popular.

Perhaps our nation has lost it's innocence in that regard. But concrete roadblocks might stop a car, but it won't stop a Chesna or a bullet, we don't parade our Royals around in tanks neither, now do we? We won't let some wacko turn this day in some kind of G8'esque event.

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> BiefstukFriet wrote:
> 9/11 was a horrible event, no need to open old wounds.



just so ppl notice smile



> Chris_Balsz wrote:
> And I'd be a bull dyke

>do you romanticize away the need for dikes?


lol tongue chwis is feeling it

till the end of time..

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X(

hmm...can't remember being that innocent, they shot Reagan when I was in the first grade and teh next year they shot the Pope.  And of course my parents were always touchy about Kennedy.

I remember when I was a kid my dad pulled into the driveway adn I ran out yelling "daddy daddy guess who got shot" and lmao at the look on his face

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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hmm guess I am an asshole yikes

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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Scratch the asshole remark, atm I'm just majorly pissed off. I just got back from a foreign vacation and when I got home I ended up in this crap.

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Nah I can't blame you.   I don't really mourn, I just get pissed and proactive.

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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One of the few sensible things I see here:
"I don't see what's so offensive about joking about royals. If you aren't embarrassed enough already that you have royals, I don't see what harm a little "who cares what happens to them" attitude can do."
I don't get it either btw Justinian. They have that flue coming so no way to worry about the prices of houses just yet.

40 (edited by ..Nemeara.. 04-May-2009 13:09:00)

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i dont think it s the making fun of royals thing perse, but the link with the incident smile

the main thing was people getting hurt/dead on what was supposed to be a happy day, not the queen's safety being oopsied smile  by saying "take that royals", some people feel you re saying that the victims had it coming for them or something  (we know how sensitive people can get about that 8-) )

of course there are ppl who find them royals useless and taxmoneyleeching funny people, but they wouldnt go as far as wishing them dead, for they have not got any real political power. The issues people care about are fought over by secretaries and their political parties


if you re talking about inadequate security measures, that s a whole different story smile


if something happens in a country that has an impact, people get sensitive about it, compare it with 9/11 a bit (yes i know it  s not the same, that s why i said "a bit")
if it s a small country, or if it  s a country where nothing much happens, or where things happen all the time, the perception of the seriousness is different smile

till the end of time..

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"by saying "take that royals", some people feel you re saying that the victims had it coming for them or something  (we know how sensitive people can get about that 8-) )"

The title clearly states "Take that The Netherlands". Not just "thake that Royals", in other words in my eyes it's directed to the entire Dutch nation, which just so happens to include me. tongue

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don't you losers know how to drive while holding a blunt

43 (edited by ~[PW9]KT~ 15-May-2009 05:50:33)

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Go [ ] yourself.

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lol EIW, typical smile

wether you like or not beef, people will make jokes smile i ve also heard about ones where they try to sell "a car", second hand, calling it a convertible with slight damage to the window...

i dont think you could understand it though, cuz you re one of the people who wouldnt joke about 9/11 either smile though even  (some?) americans themselves are able to joke about it smile
furthermore you re deling with justi here wink you know his stance on stuffs smile  and then there are people who love to you see you getting all mad and worked up ;p

till the end of time..

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"though even  (some?) americans themselves are able to joke about it"

Right now they might. If i'd made the same topic in this forum after 9/11, what response do you think I would've gotten? And I've read Justinian's posts, I know he's reasonably intelligent, but his social skills are on the same level as a primate.

Just because the jokes are inevitable does not mean I should ignore or condone them.

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> BiefstukFriet wrote:

> "though even  (some?) americans themselves are able to joke about it"

Right now they might. If i'd made the same topic in this forum after 9/11, what response do you think I would've gotten? And I've read Justinian's posts, I know he's reasonably intelligent, but his social skills are on the same level as a primate.

Just because the jokes are inevitable does not mean I should ignore or condone them.

I wouldn't say that. At least primates can find someone to screw.

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"Just because the jokes are inevitable does not mean I should ignore or condone them."
Is that a quote from a Muslim after the cartoons? Since when did you get so emotional anyway? People die everyday for various reasons not all of them being to old. These few people only make the dif for you because its hyped. You know one of them?

48 (edited by Little Paul 05-May-2009 21:19:14)

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reminds me of my subtext btw...Before you think its inappropriate remember I made it before the accident.

49 (edited by BiefstukFriet 05-May-2009 21:56:19)

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"Is that a quote from a Muslim after the cartoons? Since when did you get so emotional anyway? People die everyday for various reasons not all of them being to old. These few people only make the dif for you because its hyped. You know one of them?"


Three family members of mine were there, a mere 60 meters away from the atack, I love them and thinking that they might have died, well that just put me in an off balance state of mind, so sooorryy if I don't join in the laugh parade at the expense of the dead. The people that died were Dutch (Yes, I consider people from the Antillen Dutch also). The Royal Family, which I hold in high esteem, was threatened. It messed up my holiday, it happened in the nation I live in, on a day that I've always remembered as a fond time when people got together. That enough reasons for you?

I fail to see the relation between the Mohammed cartoons and this atack. If you are refering to my views on Islam, if anything they have strengthend, this atack showed me just how much grieve terrorism can cause.

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50 (edited by Justinian I 05-May-2009 22:38:31)

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Bief,

To be honest, that "The Netherlands Rock" thread from several years ago pissed me off, especially since the mods never closed it and it kept getting renewed every 1k replies. So likewise, I found an opportunity to get back at the Dutch. However, I did not intend to insult the Dutch to the extent taken here, but I guess since you didn't know my motivation it's hard to understand where I was coming from. I have taken cheap shots at the Dutch since then, but now that the IC Dutchies have become emotionally ballistic I feel a bit of revenge and remorse at the same time. Revenge for making you erupt in an emotional fury, and remorse for being too insensitive.

EIW,

Are you calling me a primate?