Topic: How anxious are people to understand new strategy?

Here is a challenge, to see if people care.

I can post a supreme strategy in here for you all to go beserko with, and to upend the game again with, or I can just give it to one person who would be able to follow it, but would not have thought it up themselves, to have them crush the galaxy with...

Please choose!

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Re: How anxious are people to understand new strategy?

well post it then oh mighty one tongue

i think to upend the game we need to concentrate on inviting friends to be honest rather than ultimate strats but its always nice to share einstein isn't it!

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Re: How anxious are people to understand new strategy?

I want to see it given to one person and the game challeged by it forever a secret

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Re: How anxious are people to understand new strategy?

Flint can have some pretty good ideas you know.


The only problem is that they lack practicality. They don't include human error,
inactivity, unforeseen circumstances, hookers, and other nasty stuff.

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Re: How anxious are people to understand new strategy?

probably requires u to be online 24 hours a day to do stuff at a certain time or when the stars are all aligned and not war anyone for the first 5 weeks of the round. but either way i am curious although i d like to see it used first then revealed.

<parrot> there is also the odd  possibility that tryme is an idiot
<KT> possibility?
<genesis> tryme is a bit of an idiot
<Torqez> bit?

Re: How anxious are people to understand new strategy?

build 100 figs and own Lyv's mighty fleet?

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Re: How anxious are people to understand new strategy?

100 figs is to many, you need 2 figs and 3 soldiers for that. Oh and a laser per planet will keep him scratching his head on how to attack you.

Honestly though, a few more responses at minimum, I am watching wink

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Re: How anxious are people to understand new strategy?

it doesnt work

i prolly fails to compress everything!

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Re: How anxious are people to understand new strategy?

guides should not be too specific b/c ppl should adjust their strategies as they play along.

Re: How anxious are people to understand new strategy?

i'm with jets

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Re: How anxious are people to understand new strategy?

Dont care wink

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Re: How anxious are people to understand new strategy?

id like to see what it is...

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Re: How anxious are people to understand new strategy?

Post it in forum. smile

Would be fun to see how fams carry the strat especially since PG is coming soon. wink

Re: How anxious are people to understand new strategy?

how bout just posting the strategy rather than trying to make everyone lick your ass..

prove the strategy is good, or my tounge will stay away from ur ass wink

Re: How anxious are people to understand new strategy?

Post it.

Re: How anxious are people to understand new strategy?

damn it.it from hell is was condemn and infested with swine flu so to arm

Re: How anxious are people to understand new strategy?

I have a way to nevor lose...

Don't play!

I've played with the WORST DRAFT and survived...

Raid Primo it's fun!

Re: How anxious are people to understand new strategy?

Ok time to post the strategy I guess.


Simple math here:

Droid attack = 7

Soldiers defense = 7

Race bonus = 60% (Wardancer)

Science bonus = 90%

Attack = 21.28

Defense = 7

Assumption, Defender has 100,000 soldiers, 2 attackers each have 280,000 droids (jumped for the attack)

Family banker sends minor fleets to all planets. They take planets right after the attacker to keep morale as good as possible.

Fleets required:

545,290 droids in the attack to reduce the banker to less than 1000 soldiers per planet.


Thus you do not take out the big fams, you take out fams with 1 super player in size.




Next part is simple also.


This works on attackers even more strongly if they use droids.

198,293 droids are needed to wipe an attacker with 100,000 droids out.... if he forgot science (Camaar). This assumes he has 45 planets, or if more, he now has less than 1k droids per planet.



Distance no longer matters. You need 2 camaar to do retakes... You need fighters for defense... you need lasers randomized to keep 25% of your infrastructure... and you need a market player to keep your family afloat... and you need some killers... Calculate an enemy families maximum fleet, send for the LARGEST FLEETS and destroy them.


Upkeep is now the most important factor in a do or die war. A family can afford to lose 100% of it's planets in it's core so long as it destroys enough of the enemy fleet compared to it's own... it is impossible to defend your planets except via hoping they waste morale with improper attacks.

You merely need to take 100% of their planets also, and raze the infrastructure. Send to multiple players on timed schedules, and you cannot be beat by small increases on them all, nor can you be beat by a major jump on one... merely recover those fleets and resend.




The key to this game is now to kill fleet, then kill infrastructure, and accept your losses.

He who strikes first WINS.



Those long range raids I used to do in this game... over a 48 ticks distance... those would own. No one spreads their planets evenly through the core, attackers end up with preferred directions, you can destroy 1/2 a fams infra in one go.

Better plan the attack with the market in mind. Hit attackers if iron is medium in cost and iron will go up as they buy to make droids and fighters. Hit bankers and iron will go down as they try to make upkeep with iron.

Usually the shock of losing 1/3 of your planets in 30 minutes is enough to make families blink and ask for a nap. Especially when it is focused upon a specific set of players in their family.



There is a couple of workable strategies to try to counter this, but when detected... it's not to hard to just recall and resend.



No longer can a large family wonder if that fam that refuses to nap wont be able to kill them merely by keeping their fleets out, and keeping enough of a market based income to manage upkeep.



The game is now about NAP's and sudden kill wars. Poor newbies will suffer even worse than before under the new fleet rules...


In my opinion the change is like letting Flint Jumps back into the game... it can be that much of a game changer...


Especially using nap breaks.

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Re: How anxious are people to understand new strategy?

This is why you live in your theoretical world and are really quite crap at playing the game.

Re: How anxious are people to understand new strategy?

Basically ur saying, attack fams with 1 big guy.  Kill his fleet and have lots of ppl take the planets when all the defence is killed.

Inspiring.

Re: How anxious are people to understand new strategy?

Also, far more importantly.

I left IC about 2 years ago, and Flint was going to create a winzip type program that would compress a DVD to 2kb or something. 

Flint, where is it?

Re: How anxious are people to understand new strategy?

lol and u suggest that morale wud allow u to do this because bankers wud b takin ur planets.......however, ud run out of morale if u wanted it to be as devastatin as u suggest...unless u had a fam of 7 attackers or so tongue

Re: How anxious are people to understand new strategy?

Daewoo, i'd guess flint is suggesting to use Bankers to do the attacking as well, thus saving attacker morale.

The problem here is last round we raided KPax for instance, I was about 50hrs away from any of his planets.

Re: How anxious are people to understand new strategy?

ahhh good point

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Re: How anxious are people to understand new strategy?

thanks for the new strat flinty

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<parrot> there is also the odd  possibility that tryme is an idiot
<KT> possibility?
<genesis> tryme is a bit of an idiot
<Torqez> bit?