Does China should have a say in world issues?.They are communist too.

Do not start pointing out random countries that are not democratic... I am not saying CUBA is the only country that is a communist country. What im saying is that it needs to be an urgent soloutuion with it it

Oh and yeah China does have a say in world issues because they actually come to the table and listen to what other nations have to say and regardless of what you all think China is a nation that the US wants to be friendly with

As for Saudi Arabia you answered it yourself Selur its a busiess oppurtinty

Frenzy
My President is black, infact hes half white so even in a racist mind hes half right

Kill 'em all.

It's people like Frenzy that should have no say in forign policy. -.-

Cuba is no threat to the US and we should drop the embargo on them. Flood the country with US tourists, investments, and goods and watch the country open up. Let market forces push them into the right direction. The more you push someone towards the desired results the more they resist, don't push, and let them come to the proper conclusions on their own. If you bring Cuba back fully into the international marketplace the government will face 2 coices. Adapt, or Die. China learned that one a long time ago, and their slowly turning over into a democracy, though it may probabily take another 50-100 years, but I'm patient enought to see it through in the end.

Cuba can be turned over much more quickly with american trade and resources to really turn the country around.

Yeah.  Cuba is one of the pure bright spots we can point to and say "We do it because its the right thing to do."  There is absolutely nothing Cuba's embargo brings us.  There's no stranglehold on any resource we gain.  We don't hate them racially.  There's nothing in it for us to do it, except we don't like assholes who track your Party loyalty from K-12 to age 100, who have a block captain get you fired for eating too much, who lock up AIDS patients in prison.  And that's apart from the guys they have shot for whinign too hard.

>>Cuba is no threat to the US and we should drop the embargo on them. Flood the country with US tourists, investments, and goods and watch the country open up. Let market forces push them into the right direction. The more you push someone towards the desired results the more they resist, don't push, and let them come to the proper conclusions on their own. If you bring Cuba back fully into the international marketplace the government will face 2 coices. Adapt, or Die. China learned that one a long time ago, and their slowly turning over into a democracy, though it may probabily take another 50-100 years, but I'm patient enought to see it through in the end.<<

can't argue that! looky what it did for Pinochet's Argentina. And BOY!!! Are they grateful!

So stealing a country and oppressing a people in order to keep it is justified, as long as you make a fashionable anti-republican reference?

FYI, I'm not a Republican. But I have to question your post, because it's either question it to see if you have any real point or call you names for not having one.

"We should congratulate thugs who steal nations while their people die fleeing, choosing to die with their freedom than live in opression."

Ingorance is bliss eh?

Import the mechanics too while your at it. ^.^

@Chris

What does the embargo actually do for us?  Now, don't say "he's a communist, and thus it's bad to trade with him."  What do we gain to benefit?

Are you claiming a real-world benefit to not trading with Castro, or are you just claiming it's morally unjust?

> Zarf BeebleBrix wrote:

> @Chris

What does the embargo actually do for us?  Now, don't say "he's a communist, and thus it's bad to trade with him."  What do we gain to benefit?

Are you claiming a real-world benefit to not trading with Castro, or are you just claiming it's morally unjust?

Its morally unjust to trade with Castro

I do think the embargo should be eased. Just as a gesture of good faith.. But it should not be dropped until real change comes to Cuba such as elections and i dont know if Cuba already has this but freedom of speech i have seen alot about China and they seem take away the rights of people to protest and things like this. I think change will come and i do not think violence is the answer as Castro has no intention of stepping down peacefully it will mean a bloodbath to take over his goverment. Barack Obama should look into increasing the amount of aid given to Cuba and also should look into relaxing things such as the trade embargo but only under cerain conditions. Also another thing that should be formed are Unions if this step was taken by Cuba to look after and maintain its own population then that would be a sign of great change

Frenzy
My President is black, infact hes half white so even in a racist mind hes half right

"at one point we didnt have an embargo and we did flood them with investments, goods, ect; and the Cuban government seized US property and cost us billions of dollars, and thats why we put the embargo up int eh first place.... Cuba needs to compensate us for our investments in some way if they want the embargo lifted."

Umm no. First off open up a history book cometime and learn about WHY the Cuban people revolted to begin with. The previous government was pretty bad. Sure they were funded by the Soviets at the time but if there wasn't so much poverty in the country before then there woulnd't have been so many willing participates. History is a 3 sided sword, our side, their side, and the truth. Try to understand all 3 sides of history before comming here and tyring to use the actions of a government 40 years ago as justification to keep up an embargo that existed before many people were even born. It hasn't worked, and most people have accepted that. Those assets are gone, drop it, you wont' be getting them back. You can't contunie living in the past and expect to be taken seriously.

I think it would be fitting if during Castro's final days he looks out his windows and see's hords of American tourists taking pictures of his residence, wearing t-shirts with his image on the front that are being sold by mobs of merchants on the streets of Havana. ^.^

"First off open up a history book cometime and learn about WHY the Cuban people revolted to begin with. The previous government was pretty bad. Sure they were funded by the Soviets at the time but if there wasn't so much poverty in the country before then there woulnd't have been so many willing participates. History is a 3 sided sword, our side, their side, and the truth. Try to understand all 3 sides of history before comming here and tyring to use the actions of a government 40 years ago as justification to keep up an embargo that existed before many people were even born. It hasn't worked, and most people have accepted that. Those assets are gone, drop it, you wont' be getting them back. You can't contunie living in the past and expect to be taken seriously."

that doesnt contradict what i said. and if they have accepted that it has failed, then why havent they changed their government? you want the US to fund a government that doesnt work? just throw away money?