Topic: Black History Month (Part 2)

Okay, stick with me while i try and put some sort of argument together.

Basically the United States dedicates an entire month to "Black History" (That is, history of black people). No other month (AFAIK)

is dedicated to any other minority or majority.

Basically my argument is that this is stupid for several reasons:
** The celebration of a single race is by definition racist.
** No other race receives this treatment.
** It promotes anti-communal thoughts, thus segregating society even further.


According to various sources [0][1] there have been several inventions "by black people". I have picked 4 to discuss...

1))
"Hame Attachments Part for a draft horses' collar."
Black people never domesticated horses. So without people of other races, the invention is useless.

2))
"Fire Escape Ladder"
No black structure would have ever needed escape ladders if it wasn't for the introduction of other races and their technologies.

3))
"Mop"
Apparently the mop was invented by a white person - Jacob Howe. Of course, this information i recieved through google (and a white

nationalist site, we all know how accurate that could well be). I didn't bother to verify the U.S. patent numbers (I'll check later

if its important).

4))
"Key Chain"
Same reason as #1. Without other races, black people would never of had a reason for keys...


My point?

Its absurd to celebrate the achievements of a single race.


[0] http://inventors.about.com/od/blackinventors/a/black_historyN.htm
[1] http://www.sanantonio.gov/library/events/bhm/inventions.asp

I'm bored i guess.

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I would have gone on about how a single race cannot be superior, simply because introduction of other cultures and technologies - along with trade - has created the true super race: humans.

I would have used the Aboriginal Australians as a case study (no trade) and compared them with any other culture that actually has traded and/or integrated.

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Well, your facts certainly aren't completely in order. For starters:

"Basically the United States dedicates an entire month to "Black History" (That is, history of black people). No other month (AFAIK)  is dedicated to any other minority or majority."

Is not true. Hispanic Heritage month is celebrated from september 15th to october 15th. National Asian Pacific American month is the month of May. May is also Jewish American Heritage Month.



"Black people never domesticated horses. So without people of other races, the invention is useless."

This is not true. The original cowboys of the wild west were black.  Feel free to look that up.


"No black structure would have ever needed escape ladders if it wasn't for the introduction of other races and their technologies."

That is also not true. You might want to take a moment to do some research on the egyptian pyramids and find out exactly how they managed to get down from those pyramids wink


"4))
"Key Chain"
Same reason as #1. Without other races, black people would never of had a reason for keys..."


Ummmm, also not true. Feel free to find out how they opened up the tombs of the ancient egyptian pharoahs. They didn't use the traditional keys that we use today but still, the method of locking and unlocking doors applied.



Honestly, it just seems to me that you're prejudiced skoe. I could be wrong, but I don't see how people learning about their history is a bad thing. The same concept applies to Independence Day, Memorial Day and pretty much any other day where you celebrate and take time to remember. There are no financial benefits to black history month. There is no donations given to hispanics during hispanic heritage month. What is it all about? It's about unity and cultural education and awareness.

It has nothing to do with you really. You're not black, you're probably not interested in learning about black history judging from your uneducated posts. They also rarely speak of black culture in school. However if it's so stupid, then don't celebrate it. Nobody is forcing you to. As of now, what you're doing is the equivalent of seeing your neighbors having an anniversary party and going over there complaining about how it's prejudiced of them to do so when there are people that are single.
In the simplest way, why do you care what they do if it's not hurting you?

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sad sKoE )= wrote:

I would have gone on about how a single race cannot be superior, simply because introduction of other cultures and technologies - along with trade - has created the true super race: humans.

I would have used the Aboriginal Australians as a case study (no trade) and compared them with any other culture that actually has traded and/or integrated.

Also a human is a species, not a race =/

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Re: Black History Month (Part 2)

There arises the obvious corollary that Black History is something you can skip 11 months out of the year.

Given the state of US education it probably is one of our least problems. But supposedly we're working towards integration and the end of race distinctions, right? Or wrong?

Skoe
2300 years ago Numidians were considered the best bareback riders in the Roman world.

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> Kanye West wrote:
"Black people never domesticated horses. So without people of other races, the invention is useless."
This is not true. The original cowboys of the wild west were black.  Feel free to look that up.<

The horses they rode were already domesticated.
Had been for hundreds of years.
By others.
Africans themselves had never domesticated horses.
Sorry.


>"No black structure would have ever needed escape ladders if it wasn't for the introduction of other races and their technologies."
That is also not true. You might want to take a moment to do some research on the egyptian pyramids and find out exactly how they managed to get down from those pyramids wink <

Ramps, pulleys, cranes and ladders.
Well done... apart from one small thing.
Can you guess what that thing is?
It's a little strand of DNA.
Egyptians and Africans were different ethnicities.
(but there were Africans in Egypt)


>"4)) "Key Chain" Same reason as #1. Without other races, black people would never of had a reason for keys..."
Ummmm, also not true. Feel free to find out how they opened up the tombs of the ancient egyptian pharoahs. They didn't use the traditional keys that we use today but still, the method of locking and unlocking doors applied. <

I don't think I need to repeat myself here....


>Honestly, it just seems to me that you're prejudiced skoe. I could be wrong, but I don't see how people learning about their history is a bad thing. The same concept applies to Independence Day, Memorial Day and pretty much any other day where you celebrate and take time to remember. There are no financial benefits to black history month. There is no donations given to hispanics during hispanic heritage month. What is it all about? It's about unity and cultural education and awareness. <

But Black History Month is just the tip of the iceberg. Remember that this is America we're talking about, the land that goes all in or not at all. For example, there are the Black Only colleges and scolarships, the Black Only Social-Fund (dont know what that is in American).... I could go on, but I have blood-pressure to think about.


>It has nothing to do with you really. You're not black, you're probably not interested in learning about black history judging from your uneducated posts. They also rarely speak of black culture in school. However if it's so stupid, then don't celebrate it. Nobody is forcing you to. As of now, what you're doing is the equivalent of seeing your neighbors having an anniversary party and going over there complaining about how it's prejudiced of them to do so when there are people that are single.
In the simplest way, why do you care what they do if it's not hurting you?<

Tip of iceberg.
If it was ONLY black history month then nobody would care, like in the UK we (sometimes) have Asian (indian etc) history and culture month, or Black, but that's it, that's where it ends, we don't have colleges or scolarships or funding for Blacks only.
We do it by postcode, if you're from a poor area then you may get *some* educational help, but only because you are poor.

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Re: Black History Month (Part 2)

its pretty easy to prove all blacks are dumb if you insist people in Africa who did smart stuff weren't really black

while the british colonies in North America got enough slaves to do without imports in the early 19th century South America still risked the Royal Navy and brought slaves from Africa.  This included many literate Muslim judges and bureaucrats who got on the losing side of a civil war in Mali. Bahia had a pronounced Muslim uprising in 1835. 

'domesticated horses' uhhhhh sure.  you have to train EVERY horse to accept a human and there were probably more "mustangs" running in north america than anywhere else, excluding equine variants like the zebra.  The wild horse in America has only been eradicated over the last century because unvaccinated horses preserve fatal disease threatening to domestic stock.  They were shooting wild horses on the Channel Islands of California in the 1990s.

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quit being so nasty. Sauna is kewl and you guys really had the short end of numbers and technology against Sweden, Germany and Russia.

Anyhow to attempt to return to some sense of humor

White people bring you: MST3K!!!

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It stinks!

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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"The wild horse in America has only been eradicated over the last century because unvaccinated horses preserve fatal disease threatening to domestic stock."

wtf?

By the time black people got to America, they had already mixed with other races and cultures. Your only proving my point more...

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That is also not true. You might want to take a moment to do some research on the egyptian pyramids and find out exactly how they managed to get down from those pyramids wink



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> That is also not true. You might want to take a moment to do some
> research on the egyptian pyramids and find out exactly how they
> managed to get down from those pyramids"

Black people conceptualised, designed and constructed pyramids?

> It has nothing to do with you really. You're not black, you're probably
> not interested in learning about black history judging from your uneducated posts.

I don't mind learning about tribe X or event Y. I don't care what race is involved, and i'm not the one being racist.

> They also rarely speak of black culture in school.

I've never in my years of education heard or spoken of white culture. European, sure. Australian, Roman, Greek, and Egyption...But no 'white' culture.

> However if it's so stupid, then don't celebrate it.

I don't. I would never, and this is a politics forum. We are talking politics.

> As of now, what you're doing is the equivalent of seeing your neighbors
> having an anniversary party and going over there complaining about how
> it's prejudiced of them to do so when there are people that are single.

No, it would be like me crashing a KKK party are saying "f--- you, dipshits".

Being single might split the community, but it doesnt cause extreme thoughts and ideals. Your two comparisons are therefore incorrect.

> In the simplest way, why do you care what they do if it's not hurting you?

** Its racist.
** Its unjust.
** It promotes stupid, closed-minded and out-dated ideas.
** It helps voice idiots.
** It hurts the people, which hurts me.

I am a communist. Not this sissy pansy flower child bullshit, a real communist. Everytime i hear this "black vs white" bullshit, from either side, i die a little inside. The fact that so many politicians and celebrities buy into this bullshit really only makes my point stronger. If black nationalism and supremism is acceptable, then so is white/asian/.../.../...

This only leads to a split community. We must be one!

And this IS a politics forum.

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Ha. This is a joke. Basically, I'm not allowed to celebrate my people's culture and accomplishments because white slave masters raped my ancestors and mixed there blood with ours? Because you're not black, you feel that we should all be one? That's the most stupid thing I've ever heard of. We live in the same country but we are not the same race. Europeans aren't the same race, they're just from the same land. Japanese and Chinese people should stop saying they are Japanese and Chinese too?

This is the stupidest thing I'ver ever heard of. I'm not white, I'm not racist and I'll never be either of the two. I find this thread extremely offensive. I'm closing this. This is exactly why europeans talk about America so badly.

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