Re: USA Superpower?

> A10 wrote:

> >The US was a superpower when it had almost sole worldwide military might.

>Then along came the Russies in '49 and set off a rather large firework.


I think you're forgetting the US wasn't a superpower until after WW2. We didn't influence crap until europe had been bombed out. Our influence came only as a direct result of the vast amounts of monetary aid we sent to europe to rebuild the destruction. That aid gave us a sort of power over the European countries, and the lack of mainland US destruction gave us an economic advantage over Europe.




well, the term superpower was coined to describe 3 countries including the US, before the end of WW2, so you're wrong.

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A superpower was something completely different back then tongue.

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> sad sKoE )= wrote:

> A superpower was something completely different back then tongue.


really? what experts say so?

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world most money country is China plus the military spending is not disclosed.some USA intel even say China military is more then US

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> melvin wrote:

> world most money country is China plus the military spending is not disclosed.some USA intel even say China military is more then US

thats unlikely. its possible they are spending more than they have disclosed but more than US is highly doubtful.

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> really? what experts say so?

Really? What experts say that experts need to say something before it is true?

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I agree, there's no question of us honoring our NATO pledges by drafting 5% of the US population and putting 50% of our economy into wartime production.  The "smart set" is saying we won't fight at all, if Russia is the agressor against Poland.

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Russia isnt going to attack Poland. the most I can imagine Russia doing is retaking the Crimea.

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if any big war caming i think is surely from US(iran) or China(Taiwan)

86 (edited by Han 08-Dec-2008 02:45:52)

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more like Israel (Iran)

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Pakistan - India - Iran - China

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> melvin wrote:

> if any big war caming i think is surely from US(iran) or China(Taiwan)


i wouldnt sell Russia out, they did just invade a country.... even more recently then the US has.

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WW3 could be caused any number of ways.


It could be Papua New Guinea Vs. Indonesia for all we know.

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90 (edited by avogadro 08-Dec-2008 04:54:21)

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its not gonna be called ww3 because its going to be nothing like ww1 or two. it is not going to be a huge number of nations at war. its not going to result in several nations being conquered. its not going to be many years of fighting. its going to be a large series of nukes, probably without even a single official declaration of war and there will be no victor and there will be no country not devastated by it. and i know i just used a double negative tongue

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I disagree. It WILL be a huge number of nations at war. You will need to pick a side (there may well be more then two), otherwise you (Well, most of the world) will get trampled on.

Whoever wins will name the war. For now, WW3 is a good 'codename' if you will.

It will be decades of fighting.



Its my personal opinion, but i don't honestly think the world can wipe  itself out just yet. Pakistan/India have what, 200 nukes between them? Even that figure is outrageously high. They will shoot each other (India might try and nuke China, but thats about it).

Then we have The US, Russia, China, France and UK left right? Basically the northern hemisphere.

China helps wipe out India, U.S, Taiwan, Japan.
Russia helps wipe out US, Europe
France...Well, its the french :S. But anyway, they would help wipe out Russia.
UK would help wipe out Russia, China
US would help wipe out Russia, China, Pakistan, France (Why not? tongue)

By now most of these countries have been ravaged. They would take considerable civilians casualties. But they wouldn't be wiped out.

Next comes non-nuclear missiles, bombers, etc. More attacks from subs.

Then what? Well, whoever is left out of these and their direct allies would start shooting each other. I'm sure Germany wouldn't sit back and idle whilst Europe and Russia went to war.

Then who is left? Scattered countries all over the Asia, most of Africa, Australia/NZ/PNG/etc.

Australia is a breadbasket for resources and would be relatively untouched by nukes. Especially the NT which is full of Uranium...eventually survivors will come to collect.

So yeah...that would leave the largest invasion force - the AU (African Union). And with no incoming aid, a substantial amount of Africans would starve. The rest would protest/riot.

That leaves some Asian countries, and AU/NZ/etc.

Obviously then AU/NZ will have no choice to unify big_smile.

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Nah you be fighting for 200 years as to whether the head of the commonwealth is an aussie or a kiwi

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i think the conditions afters tens of thousands of nuclear bombs are launched, it would create climate conditions enough to thwart any attempt at conventional warfare, especially by the countries involved.

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I think un-contacted tribes in the amazon will repopulate the world afterwards. =P

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Tens of thousands? :S. Try no more then 15,000.

The number of nuclear weapons is on a steady decline, by the time there is a nuclear war that number could well have dropped below 10,000. Maybe even 5,000 - who knows.

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96 (edited by avogadro 08-Dec-2008 23:13:59)

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the number the US and Soviet Union has is declining. but more and more countries will get nuclear weapons in the future and you're looking at tens of thousands of nukes. and right now, there are over 30,000 nuclear warheads that could be used in a nuclear war.

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30,000? Where do you get this number :S?

And i highly doubt Iran is going to go into mass-nuclear weapon production. Most other countries that could build nukes, refuse to.

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Skoe, if 5000 centrifuges aint mass production what is?

Goat powered centriifuges in every village?

Hmmmmmmmm yknow...dot dot dot

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that also doesnt incluse warheads in storage that could quickly be rebuilt if their storage facilities werent destroyed in the first salvo.

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Those figures are 8 years old tongue. The numbers have dropped considerably since then.

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5,000 centrifuges? I doubt it. I would believe 3,500. Even that wont allow them to mass-produce 'tens of thousands' of nukes.

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