"why the heck would he give the money to ME if socialized healthcare would be abolished?"

well, if employers are paying too much, why wouldnt he lower your income right now?

"yeah right avo.. in real it was a beer with coffee flavour;)"

ah, ok. one more quick question. whats healthier for babies, baby beer formula or getting their beer from mom?

"if you earn more then that.. you only pay as if you would earn 43200k a year.
whats the reasoning behind that?"

historical reasons. when social healthcare was invented in germany it was thought as a gift from the economy to the people (the 50% you employer pays). it was not ment to share money between the rich and poor. back in that time 95% of the spendings of the insurance companies had been for ill workers (if you are ill longer then 6 weeks your employer can stop salaray payments for you and insurance will start paying it). back then they decided that no worker would cost the insurance more then x ammount of money. so they made this border which is recalibrated each year.
i do not know why we still use it. for me it would make sense to remove it.

"well, if employers are paying too much, why wouldnt he lower your income right now? "

because he can

>>Would it surprise you to know that in the UK the "best of the best" is available to all, even unemployable me? <<

Yeah it would. Since it's not true. You don't have the "best of the best." If your best is available to all, your best isn't very good.

>>people here complain that work is too expensive for employers.. if it is.. why the heck would he give the money to ME if socialized healthcare would be abolished?<<

Why does he pay you as much as he does? The point is, the more you take to waste on inefficient, substandard services, the less he has to work with, the less you have to work with, the poorer your healthcare.

but not paying his half of the healthcare is paying you less...

but he can not do that.
also it is officially not a part of your salary.

"Who guarantees you that you use EXACTLY what you give to the system ?"

If you take out less it means ur helping other people, if you take more it means u probably need it

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Oh and about the salary. The part you employer part is not officially a part of your salary.
your salary is the basis of what he has to pay in addition. so basically.. if he would not have to pay my insurance to 50% anymore.. it would be his money he is saving. not mine.
it is not a part of my salary.

wouldnt all that would need to happen would be the law that gets rid of the healthcare also changes the employer part to be part of your salary?

Lol, how can people be interested in math when all the teachers do from first grade is give you formulas, and never explain anything about "why?" If you want to learn math, you pretty much have to do it on your own.

where is that???

CA teachers are paid quite well...

NY (not the city), teachers dont get paid that well, but the problem extends to many other state.  you're right, CA isnt so bad, that much is true.  i dont know where the 36k starting came from but that is certainly not the case based on what i know.  health care and vacation is quite awesome but i still think they deserve more.  The United States has the highest rate (among 1st world countries) of kids dropping out of high school.  If we want an educated workforce, we dont want to undercut teachers so that all we get is the bottom of the barrel.  All good things start with education, without it a country is nothing.

holy crap! It's the Reds! And they're coming to get you! FLEE WHILE YOU CAN