I think the USA should Leave South America alone to run their own affairs how they see fit.

In other words "[The fmods owned me before I even knew it!] off "

You don

I think you're just pissed that socialism is working so well.

This isn't the cold war.  Our own government is making socialist moves just to ensure the survival of our economy.

No im  completely aware of realpolitik

Im well aware that the USA, has murdered/ propped up dictators/ organised coups and generally backed whichever side suits USA business interests for the last 50-60 years or more.

Doesnt mean I support it

you "go away" with your idiot wishlist

Selur,

And that's the way the world has worked for the past, uh, since the beginning of civilization?

The way I see it, you can waste your life trying to advance moral causes. Another thing you can do is embrace reality and profit from it.

Nonetheless, it's in much of the world's best interest if the US remains a major power in the world, rather than someone else filling the power vacuum like Russia, China or whoever else. It's also essential to American power to maintain its political grip on South America. You can argue it's wrong to do so, but the other powers in the world aren't going to change their ways either.

The problem with the US is that Bush is acting like Wilhelm II. In pursuit of moral ideals and short-sighted goals, he is creating tension to the balance of power. Though unlike Wilhelm II who caused an ugly arms race, Bush got us entangled in a real nasty proxy war. The US needs someone more strategically minded to preserve the balance of power. It's essential to world peace and prosperity.

esa,

Sometimes I wonder if Obama is just saying that to gather support, but the US has major leadership problems I agree. Nonetheless, we must do what what I said and more.

You're right the Iraq war has cost us trillions, and it's immense cost and no strategic value is every reason we should exit asap.

Very

to say how S. Americans run their countries is there own business and we should stay out is a very outdated view that has caused many problems. If history has taught us anything its that how other countries run their governments is our business.

Agreed.

Should the US intervene? Nope. For the reasons Primo mentioned.

primo - besides, china is holding USA by the testicles atm, they need to twist a little and USA will be in a lot of pain. If china withdraws all it's money from the USA, they will be bankrupt before the end of the day.

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wouldnt this be the last thing that china would want to do? this would create and even worse financial crisis than now and no-one would be buying any chinese manufactured goods

also it would leave both of the US' testicles firmly in the sweaty palm of Japan, another thing i would think China wouldnt be happy with.

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on the topic of chavez getting voted in, didnt he get in because he promised to confiscate land off the rich and give it to poor farmers? which hasnt been done

also the US is one signature away from being a police state

Why do people constantly assume Americans want to war with China?

First post simply sounds like Hitler a lil.. just short time before he ordered to invade russia. pure megalomania.

Because the Taiwanese have caught on and aren't so eager to play the part of the U.S's proxy battleground anymore.