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wahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Obama doesn't have experience. Who the hell is she?!

Blatant try to pick up loose Hillary votes. Are you seriously still buying this Republican [hooya]? Please.

Gen by the way, i doubt mccain will get more than 500 clinton votes...

and he just [] over Republicans too, like why wouldn't he pick Romney or even Huckabee

McCain is not even too familiar with Palin..he hasn't seriously worked with her before

I think he's just tryina get some sex out of it

zarf that's cuz, their convention starts this monday, and i guess they need a couple of days for republicans to get to the charts and make excuses for the pick

i wouldn't be surprised if another candidate is nominated for VP in the convention...

nah WFS

this DEFINETLY deserves its own thread...

please..

Palin sure as hell has more executive experience than Obama does.  Obama was just a senator.  Palin was the governor of the largest state in the union.  The difference between the presidency and a senatorial position is vast.  Not to mention palin isnt running for president.

I think that's a very clever move.

McCain will get the undecided, and even some democrats by tapping in Obama's meme "Candidates for change". He's back showing he's the bi-partisan, he's the change, and it's now backed by a vp that fought her own republican friends for justice. He knows he will get the republican votes by now, so he can turn to those unconvinced by Obama with a credible idea of "change" (that Obama kind of trashed with Biden's nomination).

And I predict she will just kill Biden in the debate. Not in the facts (who cares about the facts anyway), but Biden is too old a fighter to be asked to behave. He will smile with condescendence at her, he will laugh facing the public at her supposed little knowledge, look as a father to a child. In brief, he will hurt the sensibility of a lot of undecided who see Sarah Palin as a courageous mother and efficient worker living her own american dream. And I do believe this will hurt the democrats way more than if she actually could top him on the issues.

I might be wrong, we'll see... This is sure becoming more and more interesting.

@golk:
you make a lot of sence.

Gladiator.  perhaps you should take a look at palins record as Governor not to mention her life experiences.  She has good judgement.  she holds strong to conservative values yet cares about the environment.  She is a responsible mother and can relate to the problem most middle class people deal with.  also like i said before her experience as Governor is much more valuable than a senatorial position.

>>in the likely chance of being asked to take the office with ZERO ZERO foriegn policy experience, what do you think palin will do?
Obama has the judgement, and Biden has the experience and the judgement
McCain has the wrong judgment and the experience but Palin has NOTHING<<

Obama showed this summer he doesn't have the judgement.  "Russia invaded Georgia? BOTH you guys need to show restraint!...uh...well maybe Russia be more restrained cause it invaded Georgia than...uh...umm...uhh"
"All ZERO ZERO is equal but Obama's ZERO ZERO is more equal than others"

>>Yell that wound was healed, during the convention, and this statement of yours SHOWS that McCain is nothing but looking for votes with this pick, McCain prior to today has ONLY met Palin ONCE, ONCE before in his LIFETIME..which i might add is QUITE LONG<<

WOOT the gal doesn't love the sputtery old fart, give him hell Sarah!  Kick his liberal meandring ass back inside the fence! Four years of that, gal, and we'll crown you in 2012 and to hell with his 2nd term.
I am glad McCain is looking for votes among experienced executives, state governor and proven WINNER
"wound healed during the convention" my ASS. ask around

>>he has NEVER worked with Palin, where as Biden has worked with Obama, they are both familiar with each other, they can work together and it has been prooven, <<

That sounds to me like the Same old Politics

>>we have yet to see if McCain and Palin can even work together, anyways the fact that McCain is only doing this for votes will show to Clinton supporters and women like it has for MANY MANY women already, tune into CNN for those views..that McCain thinks women are stupid enought to think that just cuz she's a women she can lead...they have OPPOSITE views for crying out loud<<

But so many oh so many value a woman working and getting ahead and raising a family too and being proud enough of being a woman to thank Hillary for fighting for all women. bwahahaha
and you know many women who didn't agree think the #1 job of the woman voter is to elect ANY WOMAN

>>and we come back to judgement again<<

woot

>>Obama picked Biden because he can work with him, and Biden brings the 30+ years of experience,<<

and the business as usual and the corrupt politics--the guy stole a biography from a scotsman, that is really SAD

>>McCain picked Palin for the votes...she brings nothing more to the table...<<

she's a fiesty proud conservative, she spat on that damn bridge to nowhere, and she rides a harley

>>and now i'm DEEPLY concerned, thinking that if McCain does get the white house, and if god forbid something were to happen to him, how can Palin, being a pagent queen/sports broadcaster/mayor of a town with 6000 people/ governer for less than 2 years of a state which is frozen half the year and has only about as many people as texas
..how palin could lead a nation of 10s of millions of people with the world situation being as it is, and the threats being as high as they are, and america being the superpower of the world<<

By babbling about change and vaguely messianic utterances about how we are the ones we been waiting for, of course!
oh you're screwed, you're oh so screwed, you should have slammed her for being conservative, but the talking points came down and you hit her EXPERIENCE  oh bwahaha you're SCREWED, you think women heard that before in their private lives, so sorry Mizz but you lack the experience of the MAN with the same resume we're gonna hire anyhow...ahahahaha you're SCREWED out of your own mouths you are DAMNED

>>HOW...HOW could Palin LEAD???<<
She done it fella.  Alaska may be small but it has an AG and a state assembly and plenty of DAs and mayors and two senators and some congressmen and she hacked her way through to be the governor.  No matter what your state there's always only a dozen or so real contenders and she made it.

>>and if your counter for that is Obama doesn't have experience either, i'm..rather than debate(since i want this issue to drive the thread) just guna say Biden brings that foriegn policy experience and they work well together..they're rounded <<

Mr No Surge, Mr Split Iraq into Thirds, Mr lying snarl...oh yeah he's got the mojo...btw is that Obama's answer in the debates?  "I don't know but lemme call Mr. Biden...I got him on speeddial...Joe?"

>>McCain/Palin ARENT!!<<
So true, the old fart is for the heave-ho, I think that is why "republicans" are disappointed at the pick, it shoulda been a "pragmatic" like Romney who would bend in the wind...bwhaaha....never underestimate the Power of the DARK SIDE, the Right Wing flaps again!!!

"Babies...Guns...Jesus...Hot Damn!"  Rush Limbaugh @ Sarah Palin for VP

The Clinton argument is kind of moot. I think Hilary has too much self-esteem (mmmh, ego, rather) not to issue a statement/speech showing clearly that Palin is a nemesis.
And that it would be a personal defeat if people who voted for her were to turn to Palin instead (though lot of respect blablabla).

If anything, the move on that side (women) will help Obama. Clinton disappointed voters will see it a bigger treason to agree with the "Palin's trap" than actually voting for Obama.
That is, if Clinton speaks out, which I expect her to. They just won't vote. I think this will have only a small effect.

But to so many americans afraid of the McCain/Bush relation, Palin makes a great effect. With her, McCain is back to his Maverick status, "changing Washington and being able to fight his own party" kind of stuff.

> Golk wrote:

And I predict she will just kill Biden in the debate. Not in the facts (who cares about the facts anyway), but Biden is too old a fighter to be asked to behave. He will smile with condescendence at her, he will laugh facing the public at her supposed little knowledge, look as a father to a child. In brief, he will hurt the sensibility of a lot of undecided who see Sarah Palin as a courageous mother and efficient worker living her own american dream. And I do believe this will hurt the democrats way more than if she actually could top him on the issues.

Funny. You could replace Palin for Obama and Biden for McCain and you could just about say the exact same thing.

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