Re: US economy collapsing

Bush brought you democrats everywhere, now do you believe he is the worst ever?

Re: US economy collapsing

And those people that think the rest of the world will go down with the US are still dreaming in the 80s

Re: US economy collapsing

dot.com crash started where?

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

29 (edited by Justinian I 13-Jul-2008 08:32:59)

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Well if the US goes down, I have family in Europe who will bail me out.

Funny huh? After a hundred years we still have contact with our family across the Atlantic Ocean.

Re: US economy collapsing

I LOVE this new Stock Market.

What people believe is this....that Stock is actually worth something.

Although I wont touch the auto makers just yet (although GM's new line of hybrid SUVs may be the new wave), I continue to dollar cost ave. my positions in Citi and now in Bank of America.

They are SOOoooo cheap, its almost like taking candy from a baby.  Monday mourning I have a purchase order in for more Citi and Bank of America.


Mark my words.......when the media tells you dont trust the market....its time to buy.

Dow and S&P are in bottom fishing territory.  It is now time to get in the market and get some cheap stocks in blue chips.

Get out of Gold, Get out of oil....get into banks now.

Citi, Bank of America, Freddie and Fanny are now cheap (may come down more), Wells Fargo, etc.



When the Socialist are happy, its time to invest in America.

Come .......joust w/the master.
I'm always Right.   You are just intellectually Left.....behind.
Individual patriot, and a REAGAN Conservative.

Re: US economy collapsing

> Han wrote:
>$700B a year importing. How do you pay for it?
>With land and buildings.
>UAE group just bought the Crystler Building.
>Its like what happened to the natives, sell your land for beads. In this case you're selling your land for cheap chinese crap.

The US economy is 13 794 000 000 000
So 700 000 000 000 represents only 5% of that. So it would take 20 years for America to sell off all its wealth - that is if its economy did not grow. In truth the economy is more complex than this. Afterall is Nike imports $5 worth of shoes into USA then the value added goes to a US company. Economies should be measured in value added, not always raw data. This $700bn is about the same as Russia's, China's and Germany's export surpluses combined. All their economies come to ~11 000 000 000 000

Re: US economy collapsing

Well Put Mace.

As well, US owned holdings overseas are about 2.5-3 times the foreign holdings of proper US Property.

Even so, 7B is a mere pittance.

US EXPORTS grew at 2.5% last qtr as well.  Cheaper dollar, makes for attractive US Products.

Come .......joust w/the master.
I'm always Right.   You are just intellectually Left.....behind.
Individual patriot, and a REAGAN Conservative.

Re: US economy collapsing

> Black_Wing wrote:

> Well Put Mace.

As well, US owned holdings overseas are about 2.5-3 times the foreign holdings of proper US Property.

Even so, 7B is a mere pittance.

US EXPORTS grew at 2.5% last qtr as well.  Cheaper dollar, makes for attractive US Products.
Yeah and the devaluing of my assets. Do you think I appreciate that a whole lot?

Re: US economy collapsing

"Cheaper dollar, makes for attractive US Products."

Yeah people are finally getting their money's worth.

There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

Re: US economy collapsing

" I continue to dollar cost ave. my positions in Citi and now in Bank of America."

LMAO

you'll be able to buy the whole company when it hits 0
not so long ago you were buying alcoa, genius.

If people do the exact opposite of what you say they'll make huge amounts.

Short BOA and Citi.

36 (edited by ☭ Fokker 14-Jul-2008 16:33:24)

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> Han wrote:
> And those people that think the rest of the world will go down with the US are still dreaming in the 80s<

> TheYell wrote:
> dot.com crash started where?<

Internet.

"So, it's defeat for you, is it? Someday I must meet a similar fate..."

Re: US economy collapsing

is that the dot dot com?

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... I guess most of us were not around during the great depression.  Virtually every country in the world was suffering.  You think 5-10% unemployment is bad what happens when the global average for "developed" economies approach 25-35%.  This "short term" pain that we are seeing is NOTHING.  But if it gets worse it can get alot wosre.

I'm going to be nicer promise

Re: US economy collapsing

> Question wrote:

> ... I guess most of us were not around during the great depression.  Virtually every country in the world was suffering.  You think 5-10% unemployment is bad what happens when the global average for "developed" economies approach 25-35%.  This "short term" pain that we are seeing is NOTHING.  But if it gets worse it can get alot wosre.>>

Who cares? The poor people can just build more Hoovervilles, and there will be more prostitutes and thus lower prices.

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That's what I always liked about you IA. Always the optimist big_smile.  But on a more serious note since u have realized the high correlation between poverty and crime...

I'm going to be nicer promise

Re: US economy collapsing

Today
C down 6%
BAC down 7%

Good job on those calls BW, LOL

Re: US economy collapsing

Han.  It's called long term growth.

Call back in a couple years and check.

Make Eyes Great Again!

The Great Eye is watching you... when there's nothing good on TV...

Re: US economy collapsing

Im still in AA...Alcoa.   Im also BIG on SGR

I also road C up and road it down on a short.

C and BAC are short-term plays for position

And, I will be in for more tonight.


Han  have you moved the Food and Beverage into the bunker yet ??   Make sure you bring your Copies of CNN and the NY Times for entertainment in your secure redoubt.

Come .......joust w/the master.
I'm always Right.   You are just intellectually Left.....behind.
Individual patriot, and a REAGAN Conservative.

Re: US economy collapsing

Bac down another 8% yikes

The inmates are running the asylum

Re: US economy collapsing

"It's called long term growth"

"C and BAC are short-term plays for position"

LOL

And this

"I also road C up and road it down on a short."

I also road my horse yesterday, lmao

Re: US economy collapsing

Han, have you ever made $1 on the actual stock market?  It's not like investing in Lloyds of London, a shareholder in Citibank never has to pay Citibank's debts.  Either Citibank recovers and is worth more someday, or it files Chapter 11 and recovers and is worth more someday, or somebody buys it out and pays off the stockholders for more money or issues them new stock that is worth more someday.  I wish I had real money to put into Washington Mutual--despite the Democrats seeking to win the election by causing runs on banks.

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

Re: US economy collapsing

How does causing bank runs win elections?

The inmates are running the asylum

Re: US economy collapsing

It's the "sky is falling principle"

"Only I can stop the sky from falling, vote me!!!!!"

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
Kemp currently not being responded to until he makes CONCISE posts.
Avogardo and Noir ignored by me for life so people know why I do not respond to them. (Informational)

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btw if global warming and CO2 is increasing the air pressure, why does it seem to be the same everywhere on the air pressure with old air pressure? hmmmm.... maybe the sky is falling, oh my!

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
Kemp currently not being responded to until he makes CONCISE posts.
Avogardo and Noir ignored by me for life so people know why I do not respond to them. (Informational)

Re: US economy collapsing

Im just wondering.......

Did anyone else besides HAN not listen to me when I said get in on BAC and C


Symbol Description Acct Type Qty Price Market Value Today's
Change(s)*$
BAC BANK AMER CORP   Cash 300 26.50    7950.00     (16.89%)
C CITIGROUP INC          Cash 300 17.97    5390.10      (9.11%)

/me thinks its time to gloat a bit......AGAIN.

My Cost per share  for 3 days in a row of purchasing 100 shares of each a day in the run up to the Fed Meeting.
And off the Freddie Mac .... ** SCARE ** ....  that some ass printed who has no clue.
So much of no clue....that even ... ** I ** ....  Saw it.


NOW......once again...... I sell off a good position of my position, and I have another block of Cheap bank stock that are costing me 1/2 their present value.

Short-term moves, to gain positions on the cheap.  Yea....market timing,.....but in an educated way.

BANK OF AMERICA CORP    (BAC)      19.5533   
CITIGROUP INC                 (C)          15.5133 

Im up 50% on BAC in 4 days.
Im up >> ONLY << hehe... 14% on C


Han.....you are a tool.   

You can come of your bunker now......ole BW gives you the all clear sign.

Come .......joust w/the master.
I'm always Right.   You are just intellectually Left.....behind.
Individual patriot, and a REAGAN Conservative.