It was with a high powered rifle.

Firewing goto Brazil, get kidnapped, get raped when you wont have someone give a ransom, then when they kill you, you can say "my soul was clean" to God who will then say "Those who do such things I would never have said you cannot kill"

Thou shalt not kill is NOT that cut and dried......

@ Dragon.   Dude, welcome to the real world.  Come, we will show you what it really is like out here.

The reason I've found while talking with them Archangel is that it says in the constitution that they can have guns. That's the only "valid" argument that they have. Rather stupid argument but it's the only one they seem to need.

"JULY 8--Lured by $1 beer and the prospect of "hot chicks" and "hardcore fights," thousands of Arkansans were duped last month into appearing as extras in comedian Sacha Baron Cohen's latest staged mayhem. Cohen and his confederates organized cage fighting programs on consecutive days in Texarkana and Fort Smith. Both cards ended with two male grapplers (one was identified as "Straight Dave" and wore camouflage) tearing each other's clothes off and, while in underwear, kissing down their opponent's chest. This man-on-man action triggered Fort Smith fans to throw chairs and beer at the ring, according to one cop present at the city's Convention Center. [Click here and here to read bulletin board messages posted in early-June by miffed mixed martial arts fans who attended one of Cohen's Arkansas productions.] Cohen is currently filming a follow-up, of sorts, to his smash 2006 film featuring Borat, his fictional Kazakh journalist. The new film stars another of Cohen's creations, Bruno, a gay Austrian journalist who favors mesh t-shirts and interviews subjects about fashion and entertainment. The June 5 Texarkana promotion was adverstised as "Red, White, and Blood." The June 6 matches in Fort Smith were dubbed "Blue Collar Brawlin'" as seen in the below poster. Ads on Craigslist--like this one--noted that attendees had to be over 21 and suggested that fans arrive early "for $1 BEERS!" Cohen & Co. underwrote the cost of beer, which usually sells for $4 at the Fort Smith facility. "Blue Collar Brawlin'" drew about 1500 fans, who were greeted by signs stating that the event was being filmed. Attendees were also not allowed in with cameras or cell phones and some were asked to sign releases. The "Blue Collar Brawlin'" web site (fortsmithfight.com) was registered two weeks before the event in the name of "Peto Philer" of Algeria. The site, which remains live but has been stripped of all content, appears to be currently hosted on servers in Los Angeles. "

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0708081bruno1.html

See, we need guns to stop that sort of crap

"Who are you....both ?"

lol so you think they do not have the right to question things?

"Why do you feel the Govt. knows what is best, and should have the power to BAN a citizen to own a Gun if they wish ??"

Probably not in your country, but in mine the Govt is the people.

"Just because you all believe your Socialist Govts. are so good, you know, Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, Franco,....Now you have Putin, and people like him."

You have Bush, and guess what? People like HIM.

"You all feel so safe with such model leaders as these, Hey....you dont need guns then"

You leave in a country where the majority of the population does not have any power. And the politicians just give you guns so that you can feel "save". How naive

Dragon
You need to study American Constitutional Law, befor you can make a statement like that.
First 10 cannot be amended or changed.

Your Govt. is NOT the people.  Your Govt. is elected by people, and is a representation of the people....until they can be removed. 
Scroll back to your Euro leaders that I wrote in.

EmperorHez
Criminals aren't allowed to own them either lol

Government is supposed to be the people. Now representing them. So make sure they do as you want them to. Or you change your government system. I'd say you change your system alot to make it good.

Well it would take a long time to deal with all of that. But a starter is to make it harder to get ahold of guns in the frist place.

Well what you say seems impossible so a more reasonable step is to make it harder to buy a gun. People that have been in prison for violent crimes shouldn't be able to buy any i.e.

so should britain make it harder to procure knives to curb their knife violence?

There were less to start and geographic, ethnic, social, and other factors which contribute to the lesser crime. But!!! After guns were banned there they all experienced an increase in crime! ALL OF THEM EXPERIENCED AN INCREASE IN CRIME HIGHER THAN INCREASES IN THE UNITED STATES WHERE GUNS WERE NOT BANNED!!!!

Yes it's an amazing thought, but it's 100% true as supported by evidence in the 30+ threads in the past on this topic.

The United States has two ethnic, three sociological, and two geographic reasons for our crime that I can think of. Where Europes divisions resulted in wars between nations, more often than not, the United States cannot have this 'steam outlet' like they had. Oh damn we had an old ethnic issue also in the Irish, though since gone, it still did do it's fair share here.

"Dragon likes his Govt. to run everything for him."

You are so focus in your opinion that you can't accept or even see other points of view. Govt is not the big brother, we are the big brother we all are. We help each other do you find a problem with that?

"Govt. will Educate"

Not the govt the teachers will. If you are rich you can go to a private school, if not you can go to a public skull (much like in USA)

"give them health care"

Not the govt, we pay our selfs, some people pay more the others but thats a way of helping each other. And guess what its cheaper and every one gets an exellent quality of healthcare!!!

In 2007 US the per capita expenditure on health was 5,771 dolars in france it was only 2,669 funny isn