Re: Starburst Round 16

exceed wrote:

i'm talking about your 'vengeance' against a person because he seem to pulled that on you last time etc
As you all know we can not choose our fam members except for the 1 draft, i never chose to be in a fam that has to get backstabbed because of some vendetta here or there. Play rounds seperatly
AND still i believe the morale overhaul isn't what its suppose to be, it missed its goal. Its been boring all round and before IC could sometimes be very boring, now its complete.
Yes i am a sore loser, now let this loser delete

I keep seeing complaints about this being a boring round...but I can't remember a round where there's been more fighting between the top few families...

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I dont think it missed its goal... it had its purpose... smaller fams enabled to use ops as a defence... a detterant to being farmed when your face with 100 nukes a day compared to a fractional fleet they could have....

Sure it still needs tweaking. Further up in nw you get the harder it is to war so something may need to change there but ultimately it gives more balance. Fine tuning it will get it sorted out.

And FYI its imperial conflict not honourable conflict in a chaos round its anything goes...... if you want allies pnap them... simples... saves all the worrying that you might be stabbed in the back come eor... lesson learnt I say.

War doesn't decide who is right, it decides who is left.

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Undeath wrote:

I keep seeing complaints about this being a boring round...but I can't remember a round where there's been more fighting between the top few families...

If they decide to be a banker or some other silly race which makes it boring for them more fool themselves than the structure they followed like mere cattle.

War doesn't decide who is right, it decides who is left.

Re: Starburst Round 16

Rev wrote:
Undeath wrote:

I keep seeing complaints about this being a boring round...but I can't remember a round where there's been more fighting between the top few families...

If they decide to be a banker or some other silly race which makes it boring for them more fool themselves than the structure they followed like mere cattle.

Banking doesn't have to be boring!  Unless you go Revalon...cuz all they do is poop cash and aid out as fast as they can.

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Re: Starburst Round 16

nothing but excuses, and none of them has the balls to simply say 'we wanted the easy win' cuz thats the only truth.

Colorado: even in the 11/01 war i made more hits.
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131 (edited by Cjay92 25-Aug-2015 19:44:05)

Re: Starburst Round 16

Masse wrote:

Shame it ended like this. Colorado would have attacked us sooner or later so we took to call to get the first hit. Lesson to be learned Colorado, what comes around goes around. Last round I got raped like this, this round colo got raped. What hurts me is that good people like orbit had to take the hit for it.

No shame on u and your family for this dishonest act.  shame on u when u decide to ruin other peoples round for your petty act of vengeance against a single player. Shame one u



Undeath wrote:

You hit our other allies in order to try to overtake us for 1st place... Not sure what made you guys think that was ok and/or honorable hmm

That being said, I don't believe for a second that you guys wouldn't of hit us by EOR if we didn't pull the trigger first.  We've been watching you guys plug your small Camaar in all over our banker systems for the past 2 weeks.  I'm sure that wasn't intended as an aggressive move though.

They were your allies, not ours. What that means is that u take the high ground and stay out of any fighting between allies.When u have allied a family all round, and set up in their core from the beginning of the game, knowing full well what u had planned for the end of the round, is completely dishonourable

As for the second part of your comment, do u really think I would have sat by and let colo do that without doing/saying something about it. I've completely trashed my empire in the past/or refused aid because of acts such as this. I would have called to take away his leadership and placed him rouge


A lot of ppl in this game need to know what the word honour really means, rather than what their own concept of it.

fulfill (an obligation) or keep (an agreement).
"make sure the franchisees honor the terms of the contract"
synonyms:    fulfill, observe, keep, obey, heed, follow, carry out, discharge, implement, execute with honour

Or how about being honourable

1.
bringing or worthy of honor.
"this is the only honorable course"
synonyms:    honest, moral, ethical, principled, righteous, right-minded

At one time this game have 100's of ppl playing it, now it 50 on a good round, but really more like 40.

yeah, yeah, yeah, your the best in the game!
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132 (edited by exceed 25-Aug-2015 19:52:20)

Re: Starburst Round 16

Undeath wrote:
exceed wrote:

i'm talking about your 'vengeance' against a person because he seem to pulled that on you last time etc
As you all know we can not choose our fam members except for the 1 draft, i never chose to be in a fam that has to get backstabbed because of some vendetta here or there. Play rounds seperatly
AND still i believe the morale overhaul isn't what its suppose to be, it missed its goal. Its been boring all round and before IC could sometimes be very boring, now its complete.
Yes i am a sore loser, now let this loser delete

I keep seeing complaints about this being a boring round...but I can't remember a round where there's been more fighting between the top few families...

When u perform a pi and then want to remove a share or 2, u have no more morale. Then u have to wait a day before removing the other guy that costs you 100 morale. Thats straight out boring to me, all is left is keep sending aid..
Someone mentions about a silly race.. Well we cant alll be the #1 attacker with 20 planets or less, its roleplaying. You want complete fam full of attackers then? Hey why do we even have different races then? Its bs. Get it more tweaked either by addons to races or by changing the formula. Sadly enough that last is again top secret, if public at least we would understand how it workz.

Oh and more action this round: Cant it be from the chaos rounds by  allowing ia ??

Re: Starburst Round 16

exceed wrote:
Undeath wrote:
exceed wrote:

i'm talking about your 'vengeance' against a person because he seem to pulled that on you last time etc
As you all know we can not choose our fam members except for the 1 draft, i never chose to be in a fam that has to get backstabbed because of some vendetta here or there. Play rounds seperatly
AND still i believe the morale overhaul isn't what its suppose to be, it missed its goal. Its been boring all round and before IC could sometimes be very boring, now its complete.
Yes i am a sore loser, now let this loser delete

I keep seeing complaints about this being a boring round...but I can't remember a round where there's been more fighting between the top few families...

When u perform a pi and then want to remove a share or 2, u have no more morale. Then u have to wait a day before removing the other guy that costs you 100 morale. Thats straight out boring to me, all is left is keep sending aid..
Someone mentions about a silly race.. Well we cant alll be the #1 attacker with 20 planets or less, its roleplaying. You want complete fam full of attackers then? Hey why do we even have different races then? Its bs. Get it more tweaked either by addons to races or by changing the formula. Sadly enough that last is again top secret, if public at least we would understand how it workz.

Oh and more action this round: Cant it be from the chaos rounds by  allowing ia ??

You're describing attacking a small player in a family half the size of your own.  If that's what keeps a round from being boring to you, than I apologize.

You're right, the chaos round could be causing more action... but the morale formula is keeping it around families that are closer in nw, rather than big families farming the pants off smaller ones to compete for the final pcount win.

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Re: Starburst Round 16

Cjay92 wrote:
Masse wrote:

Shame it ended like this. Colorado would have attacked us sooner or later so we took to call to get the first hit. Lesson to be learned Colorado, what comes around goes around. Last round I got raped like this, this round colo got raped. What hurts me is that good people like orbit had to take the hit for it.

No shame on u and your family for this dishonest act.  shame on u when u decide to ruin other peoples round for your petty act of vengeance against a single player. Shame one u



Undeath wrote:

You hit our other allies in order to try to overtake us for 1st place... Not sure what made you guys think that was ok and/or honorable hmm

That being said, I don't believe for a second that you guys wouldn't of hit us by EOR if we didn't pull the trigger first.  We've been watching you guys plug your small Camaar in all over our banker systems for the past 2 weeks.  I'm sure that wasn't intended as an aggressive move though.

They were your allies, not ours. What that means is that u take the high ground and stay out of any fighting between allies.When u have allied a family all round, and set up in their core from the beginning of the game, knowing full well what u had planned for the end of the round, is completely dishonourable

As for the second part of your comment, do u really think I would have sat by and let colo do that without doing/saying something about it. I've completely trashed my empire in the past/or refused aid because of acts such as this. I would have called to take away his leadership and placed him rouge


A lot of ppl in this game need to know what the word honour really means, rather than what their own concept of it.

fulfill (an obligation) or keep (an agreement).
"make sure the franchisees honor the terms of the contract"
synonyms:    fulfill, observe, keep, obey, heed, follow, carry out, discharge, implement, execute with honour

Or how about being honourable

1.
bringing or worthy of honor.
"this is the only honorable course"
synonyms:    honest, moral, ethical, principled, righteous, right-minded

At one time this game have 100's of ppl playing it, now it 50 on a good round, but really more like 40.

I don't particularly care what you've done in the past.  When it comes to this talk of vengeance I don't even have any reason for that...I've been on Colorado's side as he systematically wiped out the small families on multiple occasions (can't say I ever liked the strategy, but he's effective)  As stated before, it watched your small attacker inserting himself into our core.  It's unfortunate for yourself and others in the family that Colorado is in there, as likely something like this would have been overlooked... but when a player has a reputation such as his, he's been elected the leader of the family, and it sure looks like he's setting himself up to smash our bankers for planets (everyone knows Colo will do anything to win the round in pcount)....

You guys throw the word honor around like nothing.  We fully expected that if we waited too long we'd be the ones in here complaining about dishonorable play.  You had multiple attackers that were set up in areas that only had benefit if you planned to attack us... and we acted preemptively. 

Well, if it looks like a duck...and it quacks like a duck....it's probably a what now?

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Re: Starburst Round 16

Undeath wrote:

Well, if it looks like a duck...and it quacks like a duck....it's probably a what now?

Robin Cook...

Winners Domain

Re: Starburst Round 16

.:]FfT[:. ~Winners~ wrote:
Undeath wrote:

Well, if it looks like a duck...and it quacks like a duck....it's probably a what now?

Robin Cook...


Ducks go into the woods to die??

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Re: Starburst Round 16

Walking Corpse wrote:

Ducks go into the woods to die??

Isnt that common knowledge?

Winners Domain

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Who was the small attacker going in your core? Think your making shit up

Re: Starburst Round 16

Atvar

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Re: Starburst Round 16

Breaking alliances on "what ifs" is not justified
Atvar was inactive, he hasn't logged in for a RL week
We had no intentions of hitting our allies, I would never allow it

It's clear to see what has happened, secrets & lies - long time planning.   I saw your spread in our core 3 weeks ago and pre-warned colo about trusting 01.  He said "Random is a good guy, I trust him"  well well

I used to spot for PP for 5 years, watching the map every day for attempts of nap breaking, or surprise attacks so it's quite clear to me what has really happened.  Don't treat me a fool by talking such fluff in the forum. 

Not going to whinge more - it's a sad act to finish the round, a hollow victory.  Some players are disgraceful, what's new.

"It's very quiet on the political arena. I wish someone would stir up some trouble!"

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Worst part is you idiots woulda won anyways lol

Re: Starburst Round 16

Rev wrote:

if you want allies pnap them... simples... saves all the worrying that you might be stabbed in the back come eor... lesson learnt I say.

Hear, hear!

1598 for the win tongue

Re: Starburst Round 16

No Colorado world have attacked us. I knew about it 12 ticks before it happend. Yes we explored each others core as precaution. Now it did end this way, feels a lot better then if Colorado would have done it twice in two rounds. And orbit, he didn't ask his family last round he wouldn't have this round either. Next time make sure u lead if u end up with him again.

Re: Starburst Round 16

Masse wrote:

No Colorado world have attacked us. I knew about it 12 ticks before it happend. Yes we explored each others core as precaution. Now it did end this way, feels a lot better then if Colorado would have done it twice in two rounds. And orbit, he didn't ask his family last round he wouldn't have this round either. Next time make sure u lead if u end up with him again.

^^
When you elect someone with Colo's rep as leader, it's hard to knock people for not trusting your family.

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Re: Starburst Round 16

seems like a not of bickering in here.

Somebody insult somebody's mother or something?

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Re: Starburst Round 16

So you allied us with the intention to break an alliance with us?  It doesn't make any sense, if you dislike Colo so much you wouldn't be his ally.  One dishonorable act is not made right by another.  You have become no better than him.   So now you are also not to be trusted, who is left to trust in this game?

"It's very quiet on the political arena. I wish someone would stir up some trouble!"

Re: Starburst Round 16

Orbit wrote:

So you allied us with the intention to break an alliance with us?  It doesn't make any sense, if you dislike Colo so much you wouldn't be his ally.  One dishonorable act is not made right by another.  You have become no better than him.   So now you are also not to be trusted, who is left to trust in this game?

never broke my word once, never would.

but then i don't lead fams cause other leaders are crap!

IMHO!

BUD777 reporting for WAR

Re: Starburst Round 16

Orbit wrote:

So you allied us with the intention to break an alliance with us?  It doesn't make any sense, if you dislike Colo so much you wouldn't be his ally.  One dishonorable act is not made right by another.  You have become no better than him.   So now you are also not to be trusted, who is left to trust in this game?

1.  I was against allying with him from the start
2.  As far as I know when the alliance was made we had no intention of breaking it
3.  It's not about dislike, it's about lack of trust.  If others in this game choose not to trust me because I was banking in a family that, during a chaos round, chose to break alliance on a family led by Colorado before he had a chance to do the same to them (as again, he's known to do at eor with or without his family's approval)... I'm ok with that.

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Re: Starburst Round 16

Also, situations like this one are why I'm trying to come up with ways do move away from the traditional family system.  You're right in saying that it's unfortunate for the rest of your family that you were stuck with someone that people don't trust at EOR, the only real choice in the matter the rest of you had was voting him leader.  I'm trying to come up with a way to allow individuals to decide who they work with rather than randoming in and getting stuck with whoever, posted it in ideas forum yesterday.

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150 (edited by Walking Corpse 29-Aug-2015 02:13:00)

Re: Starburst Round 16

blablabla, u couldv not allied him, you couldv warred them 1 on 1, you couldv pnapped them, you couldv cleared colorado alone, intel shouldv told you their small attacker was inactive,

so manny things u couldv done, but its nothing but a bad excuse for greed, to get easy planets from a fam allready at war, who where your alies. dispicable, and oh so unfortunate for the rest of the fam, but not even a appolegy or sincere remark for ruining their round. I allready lost 80 planets and i didnt even vote for colorado, you cant even fight one on one u guys r [female dogs].

nothing but excuses and greed............................................ and pussy's

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Colorado: 447 blow jobs.
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