BW, this thread is about gun controll and started with the "US Supreme Court: Do Not Restrict Guns" so I have no idea what you are on about. And the fact that you cannot have any argument AT ALL against any of 111's posts makes a clear picture that you have none.

Also, that I reply to someones post and say that the response times could get lower if you get more police. If that's off topic then why say that to me and not to the person who said it in the first place? But you can't "attack" one of "your own" I assume (TheYell)

As I said Dragon, you are lost.

Cant make an Argument ?? 

Why 111 doesnt like guns.   So what ?

Do you like guns, or do you just like 111......ahem.....oh, I mean 111's statement that he doesnt like guns.

You gotta understand, BW is afraid of the man, and the man might try make him do things he doesn't like. So then he and his buddies will take their beer and their guns and mount a reistance, freedom fighters fighting for freedom in their homeland. Cause the man, he is evil he is, and socialist, and thats bad mkay, cause academics try and teach him stuff and he doesn't understand so it has no purpose, so therefore they must be trying to brainwash him, cause they are evil socialists too. Wait everyone who doesn't believe in everything BW and his buddies think are socialists! wow thats so deep. Quick load up the jeep with the guns, ma, pa, the young'ens and the beer. We're going red hunt'n!

@ Dragon
why dont you scroll back....and read.
Now, if you dont want to read what was written in responce.....and YOU have no specific questions.....other than...

"waaaaaaa .... Someone answer 111....... Waaaaaaaa"
I cant help you then.  Speak to 111, and worship at his feet.  You do that well.  Go wipe off your nose.

Why the fascination w/111 ?  Again, he wrote his beliefs, just like you did.

Dragon....why dont YOU write something to counter the Majority Ruling of the US Supreme Court.
Why is it so friggin hard for YOU to understand, that the US has in their Constitution, as an Amendment, after considerable thought by all of the state representatives, that there is a right to own guns in the home.
that the local Govt.  CANNOT Outright BAN gun Ownership.....PERIOD.

I support this.  Again.  AS I HAVE WRITTEN.....many times, in many posts.

This is the point.  Not a bunch of statistics of what the crime rate is in any other city of the world vs. the US inner cities.

You make a flawed argument.  111 makes a flawed argument.

Guns dont kill.  PEOPLE Kill.  I have NEVER heard of a gun killing someone.  I have heard of a rare accident, that gets NATIONAL news coverage.  I have heard of criminals killing people with guns...usually other criminals.   I have also heard of many people DEFENDING themselves....thanks to the ability to have a weapon to do so.

SO what ??  What does this have to do w/the Supreme court RULING...that is the point of this thread ?

So.....Dragon..... you can go play with the other uncomprehending child  the Little Fool.  You two girls go run along now....
Again...this is a little to deep of an exchange for you two children to grasp.   Sorry, no shooooo

"Noone has actually made any valid points  which are backed up by hard evidence. If you say that you have guns to protect those from other guns.... show me the evidence... show me how your countries crime victim levels are so much lower than countries without guns.............because all being "defended" by your right to bare arms..... you know what? you cant? Numbers speak more than words."

What if the USA just has a higher crime rate to start with?  One that makes serious self-defense measures more sensible?

"The australians recently passed laws putting higher gun enforcement laws through and they saw an immediate drop in gun crime."

The USA recently relaxed federal gun control laws and violent crime continued to drop.

BEIJING

Well flint i think your last sentence says it all

"Violent street crime is rare in China, where private gun ownership is virtually banned."

@ Dragon

Moron, thickheaded, retard.   Read back.  Understand ?

111

You can pull up any stats.
You can make any argument you want.

You can study any culture you want.

To be honest, I personally, give two [farts] less about what the crime rate is in Detroit, London, or in the Sudan.

I could care less if one is murdered by Hatchet, Gun or hanging.
I dont care if One shoots himself or Leaps off a building.

I DO care about the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution of the United State.
I am an American Citizen, and the Fathers of my country, knowing the corrupt and evil doings of Government, gave American Citizens the right to bear arms and with that, the right to have a Militia.  Both to secure the Citizen of the United States.

That is the question here.  All that work you did, proved nothing.

The US Supreme Court, in a HORRIBLE 5-4 ruling, that should have been 9-0, ruled that no Govt. can ban Gun Ownership.
PERIOD.

I support this ruling, I am shocked its a 5-4 ruling, but I support it.

I to feel safe in my home, would like to own a Gun if I want.
I dont feel its the place of GOVT. to tell me if I can, or can not own a gun.
Its my right, and my choice.

That is the Question/Argument, not your stats or stories.

You were off topic.

Last edited by TheYell (29-Jun-2008 07:43:46)

#57 29-Jun-2008 04:25:02
Black_Wing
Player

SCROLL BACK !!!!

SCROLL BACK EVEN FURTHER !!!!

and you will see this post, by me, befor 111 even posted:

#37 28-Jun-2008 03:25:01
Black_Wing
Player Re: US Supreme Court: Do Not Restrict GunsWhy is it so hard for you people that support taking away a persons right to understand ??

The Govt. is not all knowing, all deciding.

If I want to own a gun, that is my right.  Period. 

It doesnt mean I will shoot someone on my lawn.
It doesnt mean I will kill someone just because I have a gun.
It means that, if the situation arises, I have the means to defend myself and my family.
or
I have the means to assemble w/my neighbors and enforce our rights if need be.

When you ban gun ownership, you make sure only criminals have the guns.....and the knowledge that you do not.

Taking ways guns doesnt save lives.....in my opinion, it kills more people.

Now.....one more time........SCROLL BACK !!!

Instead of "Agreeing" with someone, and demanding a responce to THEIR Post.....why dont YOU post something.

[noob].....are you reading clearly now !?!?

@ Spider

Its all a master plan to confuse you.  What America is trying to do is confuse you to think Iran Nukes, and Americans owning a pistol in thier homes is Comparable.

I guess it worked.....look how smart we are 

China is a despot nation where they kill people for even trying to check Wiki when they ban it.

This is why street crime is rare there.

However the article shows 5 officers were KILLED and more wounded with a knife. The entire situation is indeed rare, but a knife can do a lot of dmg when used correctly.

>>"Violent street crime is rare in China, where private gun ownership is virtually banned."<

Violent Street crime is rare in Montana and Utah where virtually everyone owns guns.

Can someone find me the Correlation ?<<

The Chinese are actually afraid of their Criminal Justice System while people in Montana and Utah are only afraid of death?

lol it is comparable BW. Instead of firearms, they just use nukes is all

let them have their guns, we have far too many humans on earth.

personally i hate weapons, but some nations need their time to find out their way. over the time there will be the right time to abolish guns in the US. a school massacre here, a sniper there, a riot with a shooting, some lovely white little children shot by an old white NRA republican some where else. give it time and some shocking pictures in the media and the US will take a new step in civilization

until than: save your time and close/ignore those topics