Re: Obama bans military from celebrating "Christmas"

smile I also remember several COURT MARTIALS where the soldiers attempted to head on home, by taking the uniform of the dead marine's who were due to go back home in days or even weeks.  There were courtmartials where the offender admitted to stealing not only the dogtags and papers of the soldier's who died, who were due to go home, but they stole the uniform with the dead man's name stitched on it.

Hence the "miracle" where bullet holes were riddle in the chest of the soldier, but the soldier received no wounds.  Commanding officers and non-coms are NOT that stupid.

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Re: Obama bans military from celebrating "Christmas"

you make a story to avoid my post.

These were first hour arrivals, they could not leave without an injury yet they had none.

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Miracles or a lack thereof have no relevance to the idiocy of the Obama administration having the entire military given language advice.

BTW, claiming that miracles can be proven just makes you sound ridiculous. The faithless think you're a fool, and those of faith know that part of miracles supposedly being miracles is that they can't be proven, or they'd negate the "faith" part of... faith.

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Meh, a Prophet tells you miracles happen and you say "not possible".

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That's not what I said. It's just what you pretended I said, unwilling or unable to respond to what I stated.

BTW, nobody but you thinks you're a "Prophet."

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31 (edited by The Yell 01-Jan-2014 21:31:36)

Re: Obama bans military from celebrating "Christmas"

Mister Spock wrote:

BTW, claiming that miracles can be proven just makes you sound ridiculous. The faithless think you're a fool, and those of faith know that part of miracles supposedly being miracles is that they can't be proven, or they'd negate the "faith" part of... faith.

Let me know when they can get 10,000 people in one place and have them agree they saw the sun dancing because of mass hypnosis, or, staring at the sun. Science uses experiments to prove things.  Go ahead and duplicate the Dancing Sun of Fatima by experiment.  You get that many people in one place every ball game.

And there's about 83 miracle cures at Lourdes that doctors acknowledge shouldn't happen.  Like, regenerating a hip.  And I mean, it happened in the 1940s; the lady had an address and a medical file in Italy; they have xrays of her with a dissolving hip; she goes to Lourdes; comes back to the same doctors, and there's x-rays of the hip regrowing.

But like Christ pointed out in the Gospels, He could do miracles all day long and it wouldn't alter the Word of God already revealed.  And 10,000 miracles wouldn't be 10,000x more persuasive.

10,000 people some of them Marxists and Jews and Muslims were at Fatima in 1919 and say they saw the sun dance.  Even people who said it wasn't the Virgin Mary because they don't believe in Jesus Christ, or they are Christian but not Catholic, say it danced around.  Nobody ever recanted, and tried to pretend "Yeah we all agreed to make that up". And some of the miracles of St. John Bosco were in front of thousands of people in the 1880s.   You're wrong to say we can't prove that miracles occur because it would disrupt faith.  It's that step from admitting the power of God exists, and submitting ourselves to it, that's the trouble.

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Re: Obama bans military from celebrating "Christmas"

Stare at the sun for a few minutes tomorrow and let me know if you notice any distortions of your vision. I'll bet it's a miracle.

Medical science in the USA is often a joke today. Anyone who isn't cured by a patented drug is clearly still ill, and they "shouldn't" be lacking symptoms. Doctors often refuse to accept alternative medicine and frequently proclaim people cured by known effective treatments to be inexplicable cases of recovery. It's good for their livelihoods. They AMA doesn't hide this; they bully people into submission with jail time and revoked licenses.

That they or you have limitations of knowledge is not proof of miracles. It's to be expected.

Christ pointed out in the Gospels that God's word is about how to live our lives, not about proving anything to anyone. Yet here you are, arguing over what is proven and that Christ backs you up on it.

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Einstein wrote:

you make a story to avoid my post.

These were first hour arrivals, they could not leave without an injury yet they had none.

The story is on JAG log books.   Orders were orders.  If your orders stated you were to return home on the 12th of October 1944, then you were on station to leave, even knowing full well that your unit was to be moving out on the 13th of October.  Stolen papers, and soldiers attempting to stitch new names onto their military uniforms wasn't new.  But many soldiers didn't have that much in brains and instead took the uniform of dead soldiers, so they wouldn't have to "sew" a new name onto their uniform.

There are no miracles in warfare, only blind luck.  And sometimes luck favors the foolish and sometimes the bold.  But it doesn't pull the wool over some MP's eyes when he asks for the orders for boarding a military transport, and there are bullet holes in the uniform, seen by all.  The MP then wants the young man to take off the top of the uniform and pull up his shirt, so the "wounds" can be inspected.  Oh look, no wounds.  So where did the scrub get the holes in the uniform?  Oh his rucksack or backpack got hit.  But anyone providing a story that "must have been a miracle that I was not wounded, even though my uniform shows 24 bullet holes....", is a moron.

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You can easily pull the wool over some people's eyes.

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Only if they're sheep.

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I will handle this on  a day off.

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Your going to handle sheep on your day off?  Well, to each their own.

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Re: Obama bans military from celebrating "Christmas"

The title of this thread probaly needs changing by a mod, we have already established that is was advice not an order (so not a ban) and that it was not anything to do with the president (no exective order so Obama should probably be removed from the title too).

If the title is going to acuratly reflect the stroy and acuratly reflect the world as it is then it should be comething along the lines of "one individual advises people to use happy holidays instead of Christmas."

I mean in the story that the OP linked to it litteraly had a quote from the military saying:

There is no policy at the 158th Infantry Brigade, First Army Division East or First Army that forbids using the word ‘Christmas’,” Public Affairs Chief Amanda Glenn told me.