Mister Spock wrote:BTW, claiming that miracles can be proven just makes you sound ridiculous. The faithless think you're a fool, and those of faith know that part of miracles supposedly being miracles is that they can't be proven, or they'd negate the "faith" part of... faith.
Let me know when they can get 10,000 people in one place and have them agree they saw the sun dancing because of mass hypnosis, or, staring at the sun. Science uses experiments to prove things. Go ahead and duplicate the Dancing Sun of Fatima by experiment. You get that many people in one place every ball game.
And there's about 83 miracle cures at Lourdes that doctors acknowledge shouldn't happen. Like, regenerating a hip. And I mean, it happened in the 1940s; the lady had an address and a medical file in Italy; they have xrays of her with a dissolving hip; she goes to Lourdes; comes back to the same doctors, and there's x-rays of the hip regrowing.
But like Christ pointed out in the Gospels, He could do miracles all day long and it wouldn't alter the Word of God already revealed. And 10,000 miracles wouldn't be 10,000x more persuasive.
10,000 people some of them Marxists and Jews and Muslims were at Fatima in 1919 and say they saw the sun dance. Even people who said it wasn't the Virgin Mary because they don't believe in Jesus Christ, or they are Christian but not Catholic, say it danced around. Nobody ever recanted, and tried to pretend "Yeah we all agreed to make that up". And some of the miracles of St. John Bosco were in front of thousands of people in the 1880s. You're wrong to say we can't prove that miracles occur because it would disrupt faith. It's that step from admitting the power of God exists, and submitting ourselves to it, that's the trouble.
The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.