Topic: SS tag

u need to either ask your leader or a mod to set it.
someone with an ss tag cannot attack or be attacked by family members.
they also cant send or recieve aid.
and they must have been offline for 48hrs before the tag can be removed.

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Re: SS tag

Sorry to be blunt, but the first question I have is why? As in what is the advantage?

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Re: SS tag

to stop ss'ers getting killed off.
each player has the right to play, and alot of leaders just dont like ss'ers playing in their fams so kill them off on tick 49

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Re: SS tag

This is true, but if the leader issues the tag then won't that just force further issues between the ss'ers and a normal family?

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Re: SS tag

I've played SS for a couple rounds now.  And I still help my family a tonne.  My family just doesn't restrict my growth, and I build when and as I need.

But if someone needs aid, I send it to em, and vice versa.  And similarly in a time of war, or urgent need, we all pool resources and help out.

Just cos you're SS, imo, shouldn't mean that you should just be isolated from everything that goes on.

Re: SS tag

Torqez wrote:

I've played SS for a couple rounds now.  And I still help my family a tonne.  My family just doesn't restrict my growth, and I build when and as I need.

But if someone needs aid, I send it to em, and vice versa.  And similarly in a time of war, or urgent need, we all pool resources and help out.

Just cos you're SS, imo, shouldn't mean that you should just be isolated from everything that goes on.


But what if you choose to isolate yourself from the stupidity? I find myself playing more and more SS because the fams I land in, either a.) fail to work together, or b.) fail to listen to make it work together.

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Re: SS tag

In the past, I've preferred to teach my fam.  Those willing to work in the group, provide for synergies.  The rest,  are left to fend for themselves.

Cos no matter how efficient you are, without help, you cannot beat a pure attacker from an opposing fam - who is funded by bankers etc.

But as a team, even if disjointed, you can fight.

Anyway we digress - cos these are more strategy type scenarios.

Whenever I play SS, i've never been asked to go, cos I still contribute to the fam.  And playing under the leader, i still fight the wars we need to and abide by the NAPs and agreements made.

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Torqez, You have the advantage off, eveybody knows you, and with they they will want to keep u even as ss.

what about returning players who have long been forgotten, just want to join a fam and ss, I understand your points. If this idea is dismissed thats cool, but I feel that you personally are one of the few exeptions to my point.


also yes gwynn perhaps, Im just thinking of ways to help others, If this idea is poor then maybe something else? because yup its against the rules to kill someone off who isnt inactive, but It still happens and has never been formally adressed

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The Wonderbolts, their daring tricks, Spinning 'round and having kicks
Perform for crowds of thousands, They'll shower us with diamonds
The Wonderbolts will see me right here at the Gala!

Re: SS tag

Or, in respect to Torq teaching, it's like Alundra said, people know you.
I've been in this game a long time as well and could teach, but people fail to listen, hear you out, or rather, auto assume your trying to tell them what to do, when in essence, I'm trying to explain how things work, thus rebellion and I go back to SS.

But I dont see how making a tag for an SS player will stop him from getting removed. Thats the other issue I have. if I play SS, I cannot take a fam on my own, yet my own fam who's removing me anyway due to their dissatisfaction of me playing SS

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Re: SS tag

Hey.  So, I don't know if anyone thought of this, but here's an idea.  If you play Qezian in a normal galaxy, you are automatically SS from the start:

All that has to be done is make it so that if you are Qezian, you can't send or receive aid.

Re: SS tag

Alundra wrote:

Torqez, You have the advantage off, eveybody knows you, and with they they will want to keep u even as ss.

No, on both occasions I played incognito.  I didn't post in the forums,  nor did I join chat.  I did however, communicate to my fam through ingame messages only.

Only in one of the fams, towards the end of the round, when we were totally up against it and were jumped by Stan's fam, did I disclose who I was, and rallied the troops to fight against a much stronger and bigger fam.  You can ask Forever, he was in the fam since the start and can attest.

Re: SS tag

Indeed, I spent a few weeks throwing names at you trying to guess who you were lol tongue

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Oh and I was SS that round as well lol tongue

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Re: SS tag

Torqez wrote:

I've played SS for a couple rounds now.  And I still help my family a tonne.  My family just doesn't restrict my growth, and I build when and as I need.

But if someone needs aid, I send it to em, and vice versa.  And similarly in a time of war, or urgent need, we all pool resources and help out.

Just cos you're SS, imo, shouldn't mean that you should just be isolated from everything that goes on.

Lucky for you. I just comeback and want to play alone to get used with current situation, but when I declared SS everyone like have their own prejudice, and most likely showing dislike. Then when I grow faster in NW (thats because I use pop for starting, don't argue about this, I kinda bored with arguing in IC), suddenly a neighbour fam member nuke me several time.

me: "hey do you want to trigger something here"
him: "what do you mean, your fam attacking us"
me: "what... I don't know what my fam doing, they even don't tell me anything, and I'm playing SS"
him: "lol, look like I nuke wrong target, I'll pick fam banker then" big_smile .

see, this actually a discrimination, I don't know SS tag will repair this or making worse

Re: SS tag

What are you saying?

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Re: SS tag

discrete wrote:
Torqez wrote:

I've played SS for a couple rounds now.  And I still help my family a tonne.  My family just doesn't restrict my growth, and I build when and as I need.

But if someone needs aid, I send it to em, and vice versa.  And similarly in a time of war, or urgent need, we all pool resources and help out.

Just cos you're SS, imo, shouldn't mean that you should just be isolated from everything that goes on.

Lucky for you. I just comeback and want to play alone to get used with current situation, but when I declared SS everyone like have their own prejudice, and most likely showing dislike. Then when I grow faster in NW (thats because I use pop for starting, don't argue about this, I kinda bored with arguing in IC), suddenly a neighbour fam member nuke me several time.

me: "hey do you want to trigger something here"
him: "what do you mean, your fam attacking us"
me: "what... I don't know what my fam doing, they even don't tell me anything, and I'm playing SS"
him: "lol, look like I nuke wrong target, I'll pick fam banker then" big_smile .

see, this actually a discrimination, I don't know SS tag will repair this or making worse


Playing SS does not mean you kannot be attaked or opped, you are in a family no matter you want to play alone, if your family falls you will fall with them, I hate this SS fashioned boys who think they wont be attaked just bekause they are SS. 

"... I don't know what my fam doing, they even don't tell me anything, and I'm playing SS"

^that's your only fault, you should be kommunikative with your leader and get involved in every family plan, I've always seen SS players like perfekt oppers in times of war.

Re: SS tag

Actually Render, that's a load of shit.
Why the hell should I take punishment for everyone else's stupidity? I've seen 12th ranked fams attack top 5 fams, if I'm playing SS, why should I have to reap what they've sown? If I start shit with someone else and op other people, then by all means I expect it in return, but why should I have to suffer from other people's stupidity?

And honestly, how often is there a 'plan' anymore, I mostly see fams doing a bunch of unorganized shit, I'm super excited for this 1 person fam galaxy, should be highly entertaining and a lot less shitty having to deal with dumbass fam memebers.

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Re: SS tag

your point is valid, tho most of times its the other way, it is the SS who attaks/ops a top fam and then put the whole family in range to be raped hmm

Re: SS tag

Don't get too far, better not to discuse good or bad SS and communication things in this thread. Just back to topic about SS tag. In my view, it is not good, if one fail is a whole fam fail and vice versa. SS tag for purpose can be use to dodge attack. I just give example how people view about SS, although I'm talking true in that message. But somehow can be easy to abuse SS tag. We already have rogue tag, although it can be abused too.

Re: SS tag

I think the point is, although you're SS, you're still a part of the fam.  So in answer to your question - if your fam goes to war, that means you too.  If you start some shit, it affects your fam too.

Because IC success is based on your fam doing well.  Why do you think we have role specialisation?  Attackers often have low networth.  This is selfless.  They dont play for ranks.  Same with CF banking.  THere's no glory in individual networth for a CF banker, but they do it for the fam benefit.

Similarly, even as SS, you're a part of the fam.  So you're bound to how your leader plays.

Think you're being hard done by and it's unfair?  Well ya, it might be, but you're not without options:
- Become the leader, and prove you can do a better job for fam direction.  Even if you're SS.
- Join another fam and play with friends/like minded people (drafing exists)
- Find another fam, with a different leader.

Yes, we undertsand that your fam members have consequences on your fam progress.  But if family concept does not suit you, this is why Mods also provide SS galaxies, like Orion (and SD previously).  Those were hardcore versions, and now with Supernova, we've brought out non hardcore too.


In summary, you can play SS - it's never a problem.  But in a family, you're still bound to how they play and what they do.  And as such, it's in your interest to help them and they you.

If you want 'solely' independent play - well, now you have it with the SS galaxies.

Re: SS tag

Ok so it was a bad idea thats cool smile

but just to confirm, the idea doesnt stop u attacking other fams or being attacked by other fams. it just stops u getting killed off by your own fam

Been dreaming, I've been waiting, To fly with those brave ponies
The Wonderbolts, their daring tricks, Spinning 'round and having kicks
Perform for crowds of thousands, They'll shower us with diamonds
The Wonderbolts will see me right here at the Gala!

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Re: SS tag

Alundra wrote:

u need to either ask your leader or a mod to set it.
someone with an ss tag cannot attack or be attacked by family members.
they also cant send or recieve aid.
and they must have been offline for 48hrs before the tag can be removed.


Indeed ALundra, it is a bad idea, if you play SS in my fam and I'm leader and you're doing shit/trouble with top fams/ezplore where you shouldnt/a large etzetera...  no matter I give you the SS tag, after 48hrs I'll remove the tag and kill you off  tongue  and if mods dont allow me to do it I'll deklare you rogue and kill you off anyway.

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Re: SS tag

anyway, dont get me wrong, I've played with SS players in my fam a lot of times and they enjoyed the round and helped the fam and got helped, as long as they stay in tune, read HQ msg, forums and be partizipative in the medium range goals I often set.


"Similarly, even as SS, you're a part of the fam.  So you're bound to how your leader plays."

^what Torqez said