I'd qualify it as such:

Government wastes more taxes trying to reclaim that which the rich defrauds society than the amount the rich defraud society...its a lost battle, hence the nature of systemic tyranny.

"I know no one can change your mind  IA, but the Arts department are not useless departments at Universities (and I am an Engineer saying this) as it allows for some creative thought, which is needed for ingenuity which passes out into society. It isn't a physical object, and in general is useless for the students themselves, but allowing for that creative and qualitative type investigation into society is useful for growing a society."

Oh, I wouldn't be surprised that engineers find it useful.  Too bad the actual creative, artistic types whose ideas corporations steal; corporations who hire engineers to actualize the ideas of those who are living in poverty and despair, for this renders society's development stagnant, as artistic, creative geniuses, due to their tendency to be ethical and moral as well intelligent, collectively shun an inherently morally bankrupt society and resolve themselves to contribute or participate in its further moral bankruptcy as little as possible.

When the impacts of human activity, including the impacts of new technology, are understood, and adequate measures are taken to avert the negative impacts of human activity and new technologies, watch the creative geniuses out there come out of the woodwork, start contributing, and see humanity enter a new enlightenment that could take us to the stars.  Chance of that ever happening imho : 1 in 4

"Xeno: You say that like engineers are not ethical, moral and well rounded. Trust me we are some of the best people you could entrust the welfare of this world too... keep it away from the commerce and political types and leave it with the people who will actually make a difference..."

In other words, a technocratic dictatorship?

By engineers' track record for lack of consideration of the sociological and ethical impacts of systems and technologies of their design over the past centuries, I think 'trusting' techies with the way of the world would be just as disastrous if not worse than trusting the commercial / political types.

Xeno: what have engineers ever done badly? or at least what have they ever done badly which they didn't clean up?

Nope.  Most nursing homes now employ someone with a title similar to "Financial Efficiency Expert".  It is their job to come up with as many bogus expenses as possible and send them to Medicaid.  Around here, on average, about 75% of the money Medicaid pays to nursing homes actually goes to patient care.  That includes nursing costs, special equipment, food, janitorial needs, etc.  The FEE ends up getting large bonuses every quarter depending on how much money they are able to "save" the company.

I won't even go into the shit doctors and hospitals use to top off their pockets.