With that being said, we know the mob didn't get a kill in last night. Obviously that was someone inactive. I say we start there. And by "We", I mean the townies. Idgaf what the cop, doc, keerb and jack do.

that being said...the obvious choice is xara

I vote xara

Nolio

Nolio and HydroP are making a fuss, so I must reply.

I have been playing mind games all round. As 008 I felt I could play 'risky' with my role due to the nature of 007.

I went to Keerb, Nolio, Oxygen, HydroP, wiwi, Arby, and others to play a bit of mind games. All of these inside the first 24 hours.

Now to make a separate case for each

HydroP
I went to him as a way to try to reach mob acting as if I was a suicidal townie. I did this because of his 'I am mob' behavior at the start of the first looooong night.  I made a complicated plan where "Two townies look as if 008 and 007, mob hits both using super attack, Q then announces he is Q, asks for Lynch, uses power to save himself, roles unite with Q and town wins quickly"

I got a lukewarm acceptance of the plan, clearly it would work if mafia went with it, but he seemed reluctant a bit. Still he agreed to do it with me. To make it work we needed a 3rd person to 'report the plan'. I mentioned several names, Arby, Torqez, and Nolio. HydroP did not like any of them. When Oxygen came online I suggested him. HydroP was thrilled with that suggestion. To quote him "I have worked with him on this sort of stuff in the past".

So I went to Oxygen and planted this seed making me seem a townie. I even reported that I was telling some I was cop for effort to die. HydroP never reported who he told, and ceased contacting me after this for effective purposes. I did contact him later when Genesis was cleared as 007 and hinted I had found a role, he said he also had found a role. We both had found Genesis. He did not tell me who, but Genesis told me HydroP knew. I did not tell who, but HydroP said he thought it would be the same person.

HydroP stuck himself out to possibly be investigated early on, he had set up an association (known or unknown) with Oxygen, and he had also said he has no problems dying for the town numerous times but when being brought up he cries LOUD. If he had accepted his fate I would have switched mid day to another player. He stays on lynch.

Nolio
I did in fact tell Nolio I was 008 day 1. Right after I found my poor soulmate Ramza dead I decided I needed to test some individuals and make a few key players not want to lynch me, nor to night kill me. You can ask Keerb for logs where I said I was playing a complicated game (I Kept him at arms length until he got saved by doc, dancing around him as needed) of trying to make town think I was a role and for mafia to think I was town. Well thats not all I was trying to do. I also knew there was a need for chaos, and for order.

I kept up a game of being coy with Nolio, he is a complicated, capable man with extreme communication skills. He can talk you out of your fur coat in a winter blizzard if you let him. So I kept up a show of slightly foolish, not going to commit on my role of a player. I wanted to be able to act a slippery pig to him.

Now Genesis was convinced, utterly, and I mean UTTERLY, that Nolio was mob. Keerb has also expressed this. We three made up an inner core cause the other roles did not push for involvement so much. I was at times skeptical, at times agreeing, and at times shaking my head.

There is one thing that always bothered me as well. The mob went for newbies and less actives. But they never went for me early despite my behavior. I was being milked. Then I started distancing myself from Nolio and suddenly he declares a lack of association with ANY roles. Not Keerb, not any role.

That is Nolio for you. We are lynching him as a guess for his utter amazing skills as well as the gut feelings of our dearly departed 007 and of Keerb as well as the above.

Now for Role based lynches

1) Alundra
I pushed it early and got it done. I admit this. She had fingered keerb and wiwi but would not post evidence of keerb's wrongs. This was to mobbish to pass up

2) Turtle
This was me as well. I pushed and got it done. I was worried about the mob pattern and felt that HC4E might be targeting IC players he had issues with, or was ignoring the old school guys and choosing targets at random. This would fit him to a tee.

3) Wiwi
I did not set this up, I had been gunning for him for his erratic behavior, but I was intent to follow Keerb and Genesis on the TBO attack. Arby pulled this off solo and I had to follow or be revealed as something more than I wanted to put off.

4) TBO
We wanted to push for TBO again, but I wanted more. I wanted to get a double lynch as both a test, and as a way to get our worry taken care of. It almost got derailed. We changed votes hard and fast and fixed it for TBO, ending #2.

5) Oxygen
That night we knew the fire was coming. I asked Q to investigate one worry, I went for another worry (Evilrunt), and I asked Q to protect me and Doctor to save Genesis. Q did not use save for some reason, but that is ok... The investigation Q did was HydroP and I did Evilrunt.

Genesis blocked Oxygen. I threw out a test to see if I could get Oxygen or others to talk. We need to kill that damned spy. No joy, so I set up the kill on Oxygen

6) Evilrunt
I kept non-roles in dark that we knew Evilrunt. It turned out it was wise. Doc set save on Keerb (I was on rotate) and I had Q set Roleblock on Evilrunt since he was our only lead. Turns out we got a doc save and a roleblock

7) Today
With a fruitless investigation leaving exactly 2 people left, Xara and Galeonis, as unchecked, we have no clear path on #5. #4 will kill a role, and therefore we want to try to keep our roles alive while we fish for #5. This is our fishing expedition. Torqez, Arby, and others have been instrumental in lending views and advice, while HydroP and Nolio have been painful. Keerb and myself are conviced we found #5 in one of those two by their behaviors in chat today. Notice while we trolled Galeonis and even temp set up a lynch order on him, it was pulled because he passed the tests.

Neither Nolio nor HydroP have passed todays test of faith in proven town and protown roles.

HP and Nolio hijacking this thread after saying they dgaf.

Running with Keerb and voting Hydrop. For all we know they could be setting up Xara knowing too well that by missing a kill, fingers would automatically point at her!

Poley, xara all but admitted to being mob. And again, I don't know Hydro's role but I DO know that he would never be apart of a mob that has made such poor decisions. This is what I mean when I say that the town is dumb. You have a yellow and blue crayon in front of you and still can't figure out how to make green smh

I wont back off either of them cause they protest to much.

They are making this really big. This is our cleared townies best bet with the help of a few others

TBO was not a town role. So he was a legit target

Oxygen was never checked directly but was a test of Nolio. Nolio is the crafiest MoFo in this game. I watched as he manipulated people left and right when I was admin. He got caught out 2 days later, but he is indeed crafty beyond heck.

I am cop. Keerb confirmed it.

How would I have known to get evilrunt roleblocked?

The rules say if 1 dies, 2 is GF, if 2 died also then 3, if three also dead then 4, if also four then 5.

We set up the roleblock on Evilrunt because he was a fool. I was the one who investigated, I was the one who talked with Genesis, and I set it up.

Additionally banksy... would not the real 008 have come out to keerb if I was lying?

I told Genesis on day 2 he was 007 cause I investigated him.

Anyone who follows Nolio right now confirms they are a newbie

To     TheBigOne
Status     read 01-Apr-2013 01:24:44
Subject     Re: Keerb
TheBigOne wrote:

    I was told by Keerb if he died i should trust you. I see that you voted for Torq

    Any rhyme or reason behind this? as again i was told to trust you but a 100% townie

dude i have 0 information. he tells me i am not confirmed blah blah blah...from what i can tell he is telling everyone different people to trust
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but i am mob? really?

Flint lol

For the first time in ages I finally have a chance to live through a game. Don't screw me over with your failed planning and logic.

look... I am sorry if you feel your feathers are ruffled.

But we made our best call with roles and townies assisting.

Keerb, myself, Torqez, Arby and others all agree...

your our best shot for getting #5.

Anyhow I am going to bed.

Have to say HYDROP is the most surprising... 2 days ago I told him he may have to die to find #5. he was quite agreeing with the ide of sacrifice. now he cries like a caught gf (normal undetectables)