from a diplo point of view. It would be fun with new challenges

i know but what u have to look at is, with the current setup, all the vets nap each other, infra all round and fight at the end.

this is extremely boring, and its extremely unfair on the families with less players or less organization skills, the game is just way to unbalanced, i agree if u cant remove naps then they need seriously overhauling, something needs to be done about everyone napping at BOR, because that's whats killing this game.

I think NW penalties would be good aswell, so the bigger families Pay more for the infra and fleets, this would also discourage the infra all round strategy. a little.

You have a valid point Lee.  I think though that removing NAPs would be a bandaid over the real issue.  Your idea about NW penalties is interesting, and I don't entirely disagree with the concept.  It would be an extension of the idea behind OB penalty, applied on a larger level.

That idea specifically has been brought up before (by Alundra, I think) and was strongly disliked.  I think we should consider being more open minded about this, for the reasons you mentioned.

Stan, you are right this is a war game but that's just it: it's a game.  By that I mean it's on us devs to ensure that the game is enjoyable and balanced.  If we force players to rely soley on trust then we are ignoring our responsibility to provide useful features to facility communication and practices that the players have shown to be interested in.

er...no

lol.

And yet, it is the perfect response.

NAPs will and forever be part of the game. One key feature of NAPs is to allow for cancellation wars, instead of boring pingpongs and long distance hits without shares. How will there be interesting wars if there are no NAPs which allows for families to gain shares? that is in my opinion the main reason why NAPs are useful

Start the rd with all fams napped and go from there, I think they would have to be 12 hr naps to avoid fams from setting up on each other, I also think there would be a lot more negotiations about intruders and less farming of small fams if the fam leader and maybe the vices have control of what fams to go after.

I have not been around for 8 months or so but there has been a lot of nice changes to the game, nice job guys

You could remove cores by adding a 'Complacency Clause' to the game. i.e. an empire's defences are nullified by a factor of X% in any system their family controls more than X% of the planets.
In addition an idividual empire owning more tna Y% of the plents in a system could also reduce the effectiveness of its defences by a %.

how about a timed nap? like we nap for exactlt 240 hours. then i timer begins on the nap screen andwhen it gets to 48hrs appears on te hq page?
i think tha their should be timers on cancellation naps too. like if a fam fcancels a nap when the other fam is asleep, they might not know the exact time that attacks can be made.