Re: ObamaCare and the rush for Doctors to retire early
Checkups sure. Tests, as necessary--Always less often than the unhealthy, who more often have problems, more often suffer symptoms of disease, and more often require tests.
Consultations and wellness classes and exams? Yeah, I have no idea what you're talking about. Health isn't complicated. I don't know what new age bullshit you're into, but these weird things beyond regular checkups are certainly not a part of the average person's schedule, and certainly less often for healthy people than unhealthy people.
I literally have no idea what you think you're saying:
"Instead of people not doing those things you will have thousands more people trying to do those things in every city. That costs money."
Instead of people not getting unnecessary tests, there'll be more people trying to get those unnecessary tests? What? Why wouldn't they do regular and logical things? Why (and how!?) would they both not get logical things and get them at the same time? That's not rationally possible. If you're complaining that "they" (who?) won't get "those things" (what things?), how can you at the same time that "thousands more" will try to get "those things"?
And you go on rambling vaguely about people needing checkups in order to be healthy. I've already decimated your ridiculous notion that our healthcare system makes people healthy, that it is the primary source of health.
Healthy people need less tests (none of the regular check-up types, void of symptoms of disease, are very costly), because they suffer from less disease. In regard to testing, they spend less on healthcare. Healthy people suffer less diseases (of virtually every type), thus cost less money both in treatment of these diseases and in testing as a result of symptoms to diagnose disease.
Yes, some people overuse the system. Those people are not "healthy people" categorically, and you've made no argument for the position that they are.
It's certainly theoretically possible that healthy people tend to overuse healthcare more than unhealthy people, but you haven't offered any more evidence or arguments for that hypothesis than for the hypothesis that French people are more genetically predisposed for life on Mars than Spanish people. You've offered no evidence whatsoever for your claim that healthy people use any healthcare system more often than unhealthy people.
Healthy people use the healthcare system less to treat diseases, because they get less of them. You obviously accept this fact. In this, they incur less costs.
Healthy people use the healthcare system less to test for diseases, because they suffer less diseases, they suffer less symptoms, and they have less health problems which prompt them to go to doctors/ERs and have symptoms diagnosed for causes. You obviously accept this fact. In this, they incur less costs.
Additionally, healthy (and educated) people accept that drugs and MDs (while they have plenty of legitimate purposes in surgery and even many drugs--I've never claimed otherwise) are not the entirety of medicine and health. Diet, exercise, and getting away from all of the toxins that government allows in food and water (and even intentionally places in them, in such cases as fluoride and accepting bribes to accept known toxins as unlabeled additives) are obviously beneficial to health, yet people who give attention to these things incur no costs to the healthcare system at large, and I'll wager they tend to pay for their own healthcare far more than those receiving state-subsidized care (which includes subsidies from everyone who DOES pay for their own care, in the form of increased bills, beyond taxation).
You seem to be alleging, as the sole basis for your claim that healthy people cost the healthcare system as a whole more than unhealthy people (who undisputedly suffer more diseases and require more treatments/surgeries/procedures/hospitalization/emergency care), that healthy people get more tests. That's it? Not only are you making this completely unbacked claim, but claiming it not only balances out with but exceeds the costs of unhealthy people who suffer far more diseases and require far more treatment?
Laughable.