Re: Christopher Dorner vs LAPD

San Bernardino County Sheriff's deputies are cowboys

I loved that press conference

Deputy: We..we established a presence, when we arrived; then we threw in cold tear gas, then we threw in pyrotechnic tear gas and the pyrotechnic tear gas does release a lot of heat.  And after we threw those in, the fire ignited.
Reporter: We heard on the police band the calls to throw in a burner.  What's that?
Deputy: The pyrotechnic tear gas canisters...are...known as burners.

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Yeah... and then there's this:

"I don't think there's going to be a reward," he said. "Remember, it's capture and conviction. There was no capture and no conviction. It's kind of a no-brainer."

So a reward was offered to get people to contribute information.  Yet they obviously had no intent of taking this guy alive.  Not saying I blame them for taking him out, but the reward thing was a joke.

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28 (edited by The Great Eye 15-Feb-2013 00:18:46)

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Law enforcement critics noted that police radio traffic might indicate that the fire was intentional. Cops were heard saying:
We're gonna go forward with the plan, with, er, with the burn. We want it, er, like we talked about. ... Seven burners [tear gas canisters] deployed and we have a fire.

And:
We're going to burn him out ... Burn this [bad esa]!

The inmates are running the asylum

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this is why Gwenydd's department uses Aboriginal codetalkers for dispatchers

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was the dalmation ok?

So I told the cop, "No YOU'RE driving under the influence... of being a JERK!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFjjO_lhf9c

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Yeah. Until they ate it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL6-oFPeNco

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AW MAN

I FORGOT

I forgot to say

Burn Baby Burn
Burn Baby Burn
Burn Baby Burn
Burn Baby Burn

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Disco Inferno!

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Well things are getting heated

Some are saying the fire was intentional. The radio calls during the fire fight where one cop was killed and another downed got a lot of calls to 'burn it'.

Hours passed and they did use a LOT of Tear Gas in a blitz move. They then prevented the fire department from putting it out until well after there was no chance of survival (stress well after).

Oh boy the last thing they need to do is get this, lol.

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"This 1965 Newsweek marks one of the first national appearances of the 60s phrase "Burn, Baby, Burn."  Made infamous by the riots, it was first used by a disc jockey known as Magnificent Montague when he was working in New York and Chicago in '63 and '64.  He's shout it any time a piece of soul music got him excited, and he brought it with him to Los Angeles where his listeners appropriated it for the arson that marked the riots.  During those terrible days, his station manager and even Mayor Yorty asked Magnficent Montague to give up his slogan.  He did, at least while the fires were hot, changing to:  "Have Mercy, Los Angeles!""

http://blogcritics.org/politics/article/watts-riots-burn-baby-burn/page-2/

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Some are saying?

You obviously haven't listened to their radio transmissions.

My ex-navy buddy is telling me about the canisters they used... which only have an 85%~ chance to light up a residence. Tell us more about "some are saying" and how you're open to your slave masters' story!

I'm not suggesting I have a problem with them killing this guy. But I am stating my humble opinion that we should be more offended by being lied to than we are.

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That's what makes this worse in my opinion.  The alleged corruption this guy stood against is going to be buried with his body.  I hope I am wrong, but it seems after the media frenzy is over it will be business as usual.

LAPD may or may not have used excessive force in the initial incident that stated the whole mess.  I suppose we may never be sure of that.  However, we do know that they were responsible for shooting innocent people on 2 separate occasions.  We also know they had no intent of honoring any reward.  Apparently to top it off we know we are being lied to about the fire.

I also do not blame them for doing the guy in.  However, I do not like the fact that nothing will likely come of any of this.  In a twisted way, this situation is giving some sense of legitimacy to Dorner's sentiments.

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well, the guy kind of did himself in ... he could have left the cabin and surrendered.

can't really blame the cops because he chose to burn instead.

Valour-the courage to do what scares you to death

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Kemp I drive through LA to often, headed there now.

I like living so I won't get more thorough on that

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Yeah, because the LAPD not only monitors the internet, but your conduct on this forum. And they care SO much they've both gotten your IP from IC and your identity from your ISP.

If you're a security expert I'm the President of the United States.

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LAPD didn't burn down the cabin it was San Bernardino County Sheriff

anyhow cause of death is self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head not the fire

or so they say

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42 (edited by V. Kemp 16-Feb-2013 20:39:08)

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Given that option, dying of smoke inhalation, or burning alive, it's not very remarkable if he made that choice.

Pardon my LAPD reference. I meant any local po-po.

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Los Angeles is a city with a large internet department including a keyword monitoring system.

And while odds of them killing me is very low I do not like random tickets either.

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Yeah. They're monitoring IC. Because so few people bad-mouth them. They've identified you. And gotten your IP from IC. And used that to get your identity from your ISP. And now they're going to tag your license plate and hunt you down for harassment.

Very likely scenario. You should be afraid. Good thing you only implied that they obviously lied. I'm sure that'll keep you safe. I'm sure, otherwise, they'd go through the trouble of identifying you to harass you!

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it's not like Flint ran for office as a Republican and the mayor of Los Angeles was a Democrat hack at the top of the national party and its not like they keep track of what jobs and businesses Republicans own and look for ways to hurt them.  Look at how Joe the Plumber makes out.

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Butch Cassidy & Sundance Kid finale > suicide > death by smoke inhalation

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As long as he's a Republican they could care less. He's under their control. He'll follow whomever they give him.

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