Re: Appeals Court completes a fatality move on Obama.

I started reading the story and liked it from the start... like a fine dinner. Then it got better, like adding sugar. Then better like a hot date added to the sugary dinner. Then amazingly better like a parade in your honor before your hot date at a classy resteraunt with a sugary desert.

Then it got BETTER.

WOW

So what happened?

The Court invalidated a "recess appointment" Obama made to the NLRB (National Labor Relations Board... it handles all things Union related).

Actually it ended up invalidating a few to the board and... this ends a boatload of new Union things Obama was pushing. Including micro-units.

But wait! There is more! Obama himself declared Congress on recess when they said they were on business. The Court said Obama cannot do that.

The Court there after included... that Congress is only in recess between new Seatings of Congress. This effectively ends recess appointments.

But that is not all... yes there is MORE! They declared the President can only fill empty positions in Recess for positions that opened up in Recess!

And all of this is back dated to his illegal action.


Which means as collateral damage his choice for Consumer Financial Protection Bureau of Richard Cordray is nixed as well.



All this just now happened which means... since the Senate made an agreement on the Filibuster... there is going to be one hell of a fight over all appointments for the rest of the 2 years.



Tl;dr
Effectively Obama lost all recess appointments and the ability to make them. His pro-Union agenda just got entirely reversed and is dead in the water. His other efforts in CFPD just got derailed and the timing was wonderful.




And this very same court did it unaminously and is hearing 2 other abuses of Obama's power soon. Oh the fun times!

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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Re: Appeals Court completes a fatality move on Obama.

I stopped at the first paragraph.  Worst way to begin a politics thread... ever!

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Re: Appeals Court completes a fatality move on Obama.

Zarf it was like something you never enjoyed.... thats why tongue

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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4 (edited by The Yell 26-Jan-2013 05:48:52)

Re: Appeals Court completes a fatality move on Obama.

for you furriners

all officers of the Constitution under the "rank" of President and Vice President ( who are elected) have to be confirmed by the Senate (including generals and admirals)

if the Senate is in town and refuses to vote then the office is technically empty. (how crap gets down without a boss in the office, well I guess you Europeans understand that better than we do.  That whole "Yes Minister" thing)

Some functions though absolutely require a functioning set of officers.  Who have to be confirmed.

EXCEPT if the Senate is not in town and not holding sessions, then Presidents have an opportunity to set up an officer as somebody who couldn't be confirmed, so, he ought to be left in the office as a "Recess Appointment".

a competent president doesn't do that very often as it just works better when he has the Senate on board for his nominations. your average Senator combines stupidity, lechery, greed and pomposity, and they are better if they are made to feel important by doing favors.

Obama isn't very good at being president, though, so he decided that if the Senate was not as busy as he thought it should be, even if it said it was formally in session, then it wasn't in session.

The court disagreed and also, looking at the language, figured that the Senate is actually "in recess" only once every two years.  Just adjourning isn't a recess.  That's new.

I think the Supreme Court will agree with them, and then the Republicans will be in a panic, because Obama won't give a damn, and not giving a damn creates a crisis where Republicans may feel compelled to try and make him give a damn, and they won't get Democrat votes to succeed.  The Democrats don't mind creating an imperial presidency, because if they lose it, they will just riot to stop a Republican president from behaving like a king.  A Democrat king pleases them.

Rather than allow Obama to crown himself King, they will just make it legit by giving him what he wants.   As they've just done with raising taxes, and confirming his illegal amnesty waiver, and agreeing to "suspend" the debt limit.

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Re: Appeals Court completes a fatality move on Obama.

Grrrr, now Chris is doing it as well X(


The ESTABLISHMENT Republicans Chris. Don't aid them by adding all other Republicans to them X(

And I think the Establishment Republicans will give 'almost' king level powers away thinking they will for sure get the Presidency afterwards since clearly mainline Conservatives do not vote in Conservative candidates anymore but instead stay home sucking their thumbs waiting for the end to come.

And people like Chris guarantee this self fufilling prophecy will come true.

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6 (edited by The Yell 26-Jan-2013 19:05:08)

Re: Appeals Court completes a fatality move on Obama.

If you support the Establishment as the Establishment you are yourself Establishment

3/4 of Republicans voted against Boehner's surrender plans, but Boehner lets 1/4 of Republicans vote with Democrats to pass Harry Reid's version

yet 8/9 Republicans vote to keep Boehner

its as if there wasn't a party platform, as if they didn't campaign against their current agenda and win.   Every Republican in the House defeated a Democrat who stood for higher taxes, more spending, amnesty for illegals, funding for abortion, defeat in war and gun control.   Somehow a Republican majority ends up meaning higher taxes, more spending, amnesty for illegals, funding for abortion, defeat in war, and gun control.

The only way to flush the Boehners, Bushes, Roves, Lotts and Cantors is to make them lose.  That's it.  We can destroy the Democrat establishment with a dedicated crew of politicians.   This crop of asshats couldn't run a pancake breakfast.

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Re: Appeals Court completes a fatality move on Obama.

They're the majority of Republicans, Einstein. It's all well and good if you don't like this, but it's still a fact.

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Re: Appeals Court completes a fatality move on Obama.

Boehner won cause the group seeking to unseat him was incompetant in the severe.

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Re: Appeals Court completes a fatality move on Obama.

> Einstein wrote:

> Boehner won cause the group seeking to unseat him was incompetant in the severe.<<

Pravda.  If they didn't mean to vote for Boehner they could have voted for somebody other than Boehner.

They didn't.

They voted for Boehner.

This is a recurrent problem with the Republican Party, it pretends to excuse harmful deeds by pleading harmful inaction.

Here, the harmful vote to confirm Boehner is excused on the grounds that nobody had an inevitable alternative...but it was those same people who refused to come up with alternatives. 

I won't excuse Jimmy for eating candy til he barfs because he was hungry from skipping dinner.   He set it up.  He's responsible. 

Your excuse is actually another offense.

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Re: Appeals Court completes a fatality move on Obama.

Well if the douche bags had thought to not bungle it so badly they could have gotten more support. As it is they F'ed it up so badly it was an embarrassment.

However I would still have not voted for Boehner. Damn the consequences from the Establishment but I would have thrown his ass out to the curb with a 'will vote for donuts' sign around his neck.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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Re: Appeals Court completes a fatality move on Obama.

shoulda voted for Joe Wilson

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