Re: Cigarette Taxes

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/01/19/sin-tax-wars-60-9-of-all-smokes-in-ny-go-untaxed/

60.9% of cigarettes smoked in New York are not bought with New York tax stamps. $14 a pack will make people go out of their way to get cigarettes at Reservations and out of State.

So tax revenue is down hard, smuggling is up, and smoking has not significantly decreased. I love how Liberals think if you increase a tax you shall see 100% of the new taxes in the future. Reality shows otherwise.

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On a side note I will post again my plan for ending smoking in 138 years. This would work, is easily done, and does not require crazy taxation schemes at all.

Simply put every 2 years you raise the age required to smoke by one year, until you reach 90 years of age. This way it is hard for tobacco companies to fight, people will have a hard time contesting that you cut them off from access, etc. Cigarette smoking would start dropping off significantly in 40 years however as only 41 year olds could buy cigarettes.

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2 (edited by V. Kemp 19-Jan-2013 23:43:52)

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Once again, you share a view of "Conservatism" which is big-government, anti-freedom.

Fat, unhealthy people are bad for society, just as surely as smokers. They're bad for their own health, and bad for our economy. They're less productive, and get sick and die often of conditions resulting from their weight--incurring high costs along the way. Where's your plan to get rid of them? And dumb people? And everyone else who makes decisions you, in your high and mighty wisdom, do not approve of?

I know you like making excuses for your weight, but it's the result of your own decisions and discipline, just as smokers' choices and addictions are of theirs. Here you display the height of hypocrisy. A grand scheme to control people who aren't acting as you would like, while you engage in paralleled destructive behavior. Because it's okay when you do it. You have excuses. Yours are better than theirs. Powerful government meddling in people's lives unconstitutionally is alright, as long as it's enacting the controls you want to see.

Nevermind that you bombard us with nonsense statements, as always:

"This way it is hard for tobacco companies to fight...."

Yeah, it's inherently hard for them to fight oppression unless it threatens ALL their revenue stream? Your statement is baseless. They'd fight it with every dollar they could justify and then some, given that you clearly state the desire for abolishment. You're making the fight about a complete ban, not a year or two. And that's what you'd get. People aren't quite as stupid as you make them out to be. They can figure out things you're obviously having trouble with.

"people will have a hard time contesting that you cut them off from access, etc."

Every legal adult will have a very easy time proving that you cut them off from access from the very first year you attempt to up the age requirement. They're legal adults.  Wasn't very hard contesting that at all.

"Cigarette smoking would start dropping off significantly in 40 years however as only 41 year olds could buy cigarettes."

Just as prohibition prevented alcohol consumption and the "drug war" prevents people from smoking marijuana now! You really thought this one through.

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Crossed the line so far that you can't see the line since it got up and ran to me crying over the big meanie that stepped all over it.  Warned, Flint.

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> Einstein wrote:

On a side note I will post again my plan for ending smoking in 138 years.



It is aktually the 1st time I agree, no one will stand 138 years smokeing

(but we'd wish!)

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138 year olds should be able to smoke not only without legal judgement, but without even personal judgement. It's only logical.

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I like smoking, plus it`ll be well hard to pass that law ha ha

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dad quit by switching to Winstons

so foul he couldn't bring himself to light up

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"60.9% of cigarettes smoked in New York are not bought with New York tax stamps. $14 a pack will make people go out of their way to get cigarettes at Reservations and out of State."

that's not news

the news is "Cigarette smuggling made a comeback without the Five Families"

ever see a quaint little movie called "Goodfellas"?  And what was Henry Hill doing when he got arrested for the first time as a little kid?

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
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Without the smokers the economy would be more dead!

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"Simply put every 2 years you raise the age required to smoke by one year, until you reach 90 years of age. This way it is hard for tobacco companies to fight, people will have a hard time contesting that you cut them off from access, etc. Cigarette smoking would start dropping off significantly in 40 years however as only 41 year olds could buy cigarettes."

i forgot, no cigarette company has lobbyists, this is obviously fool proof!

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Globalists like Einstein come up with lots of bad ideas in their endless struggle to come up with more ideas to expand central control over all of society.

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settle it the way the Founders intended

midnight arson and Judge Lynch

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.