are you claiming there is no atheist evil?

and to be fair, i am not sure a hitler was evil or just sort of crazy.
stalin is probably more of an evil figure.

The word "evil" attempts to reduce people to "other than humans," eliminating any societal factors.  I do not believe in the supernatural and I do not believe in "true evil".

primo you should read some William Shirer histories of the Reich

he agrees Hitler lost it in the end, but the camps and the Gestapo and the conquest of Eastern Europe were all planned in advance.

the smartest trick the three legged rainbow unicorn ever pulled was to persuade the world he didn't exist

Yea, that wasn't true.

Evil is a social construct.

[PW2] PICKLE ARMY,

Do you have any basis for the statement that the term "evil" is intended to dehumanize? It's had secular usage for centuries. Please advise.

[TI] Primo,

There's no evidence that his death camps were a late idea as his syphilis rotted his brain. There's plenty of evidence that he intended such things pretty early, which is obvious because he certainly didn't wait to get started.

You ignored my question regarding the basis for your discrimination between Hitler and Stalin. Hit a nerve, did I? Aren't those the best kinds of questions to respond to?

I'm disappointed. No wonder international banks are taking over the world. Even on a discussion forum, humanity is too sheep-like to respond to topics it brings up. Oooo scary, talking about our own ideas! Let's post to a forum with that purpose and then awkwardly refuse to discuss what we bring up! What dysfunction.

Justinian I,

All of language is a social construct. You're a real master of the obvious. The question in this thread is open to interpretation via religious or secular interpretation. That language is language is not exactly an insightful observation. ~Pw 32~ Random Hero similarly seems to lack understanding of language. He says there's "no such thing as evil," disregarding the fact that it can be defined in different ways, commonly including secular usage of late.

We could define 'evil' in all kinds of common-usage ways, as it has frequently been for centuries. What do you know, this renders all of your trying-too-hard philosophical conclusions of evil's non-existence because of religious roots ignorant and silly.

Then Spock you agree with me that there is no such thing as True Evil ... if Evil is too illusive to define how can we at all consider it to be true?   If someone kills a bunch of people you would say he was evil ... but that is not an accurate description... People were saying the gun man who killed those kids in Newtown was evil ... no... he was insane... people say Hitler was evil ... no he was insane and delusional...   

I guess evil to some people is just something they don't like? If evil is a matter of opinion then there is no such thing as true evil.

Depends on how you define it, [PW2] PICKLE ARMY. I don't have a problem with its secular usage to describe real monstrous pieces of trash, if that answers your question. Some people think I shouldn't describe any human being as "trash." I think these people are sheltered and unaware of the using, sociopathic human beings in this world.

You can be insane and delusional and not kill millions of people. You can be insane and delusional and not even try to kill one. I don't think mental defect necessarily precludes the possibility of bad intentions or "evil." I'm not sure I agree that Hitler's madness made him any less "evil" by any definition. He didn't give a damn about people and he actively facilitated the deaths of many tens of millions. He wasn't completely psychotic or he'd never have maintained his power for so long. Labeling him as insane does not automatically mean he wasn't aware of what was going on around him and what he was doing.

Yes, there's a true evil in the world.  Roombas.

villie!!!!

or should i say huggybear?