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Currently 3 major States are within the required recount levels that I can find..  and with still low numbers counted in two more it may be possible up to 5 States will be in recount status.

This is going to be a slog. Both candidates have tens of thousands of lawyers (For instance Mitt Romney had 10k lawyers in Wisconsin alone.)

Mitt would need to win all three. I dont think he will but voter fraud will come up.

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Yeah could be an interesting watch.

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Einstein wrote:

For instance Mitt Romney had 10k lawyers in Wisconsin alone

I bet he won that county!

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Unlikely a recount will affect the overall.

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Lol!!!!

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Fat lady sang her concession speech. It's all over.

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Its over Einstien!! the sooner you accept it the better you will be big_smile

All the people and pundants on Fox News cried themselves to sleep last night... I LOVE IT LOL

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Yes! Not only is this a defeat for plutocracy, it is the total defeat of social conservatives. Never again will they threaten us.

9 (edited by I Like Trains kid 07-Nov-2012 18:45:14)

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> Justinian I wrote:

> Yes! Not only is this a defeat for plutocracy, it is the total defeat of social conservatives. Never again will they threaten us.



So, do you live in Washington or Colorado, cause the only way you could extrapolate this as a "never again" stance is if you spent all night huffing marijuana.

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10 (edited by Justinian I 07-Nov-2012 18:50:22)

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What I mean is, is that this election was the last chance Republicans had. Due to demographic changes, the Democratic party will become the dominant party by ~2020. The younger generation does not care about social conservatives, and the older generation that does is dying off.

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Justinian is right in the sense that Republicans have adopted this last stand tactic which is only hurting them. Their man constituency are older whites and white males, and if they don't try to reach out for the new groups like latinos and blacks they are doomed as a major party.

Frankly they aren't already because you only really have 2 parties in the US, so someone needs to be the alternative. Need more diversity!

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Since when did the Republican party become defined only by social issues?

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hispanics and blacks are new?

NEE NAW NEE NAW

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@Primo

No, but the sheer number of voters is much higher.  Not as much the African American population as the Hispanic population, but still...

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> ~Killas~ wrote:

> Hispanics and blacks can vote?

Apparently so can women

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Oh my god I didn't realize what a MONSTER I am!

I want to crush her RIGHT that... I buy her contraception? Excuse me? Does she owe me condoms too? Please explain your rationale.

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Democrats obviously exaggerated the "War on Women." I would not call it a war, but certain republican legislatures definitely went too far. Examples below:

Federal Level:

1. Republican legislators supported an effort to qualify the the federal abortion funding exception of rape to "forcible rape." Although not an attempt to redefined rape as democrats claimed, it is still utterly despicable.
2. Although the birth control-mandate amounts to wasteful spending, the Blunt amendment would have permitted any employer to deny contraceptive coverage to women who needed it for other documented medical reasons if it violated the employer's "conscience."
3. Republicans in the House viciously resisted renewing the "Violence Against Women" Act, which provided federal funding for programs such as women's shelters for prejudicial reasons.
4. Republicans in the House proposed substantial cuts to WIC, which provided assistance to young children and pregnant/breastfeeding mothers in poverty to obtain health care and nutrition services.

State Level:

1. Some states passed legislation requiring unnecessary counseling and medical procedures (mandatory ultra sounds) to obtain an abortion.
2. Wisconsin repealed its "Equal Pay Enforcement Act."
3. Kansas passed a bill requiring abortion providers to misinform their patients that cancer is linked to abortions, which is false.

Public Statements and Other Examples:

1. Falsely perpetuated claims about Planned Parenthood such as it being a racist and sexist organization because its stated goals are sex-selective and race-selective abortions, and that the majority of its work is abortions.
2. Bizarre statements made by tea-party candidates such as Todd Akin,  Richard Mourdock and Tom Smith. Mourdock stated that abortion should not be permitted under any circumstances, and Smith compared pregnancy from rape to pregnancy out of wedlock.
3. Bizarre legislative proposals to outlaw abortions if a heartbeat is detected, and to consider the murder of an abortion doctor as justifiable homicide.

So while there probably isn't a "War on Women," I think it's fair to say that the tea-party is largely comprised of village idiots.

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You're against the first amendment? The government has the right to order you to violate your conscience, because birth control is SO expensive nobody could reasonably be expected to provide it for them self (or work somewhere else)?

Personally, I could care less about birth control, but I'm a big fan of the bill of rights and I'd expect the right to my conscience if it dictated that I not purchase pills which result in the disposal of a fertilized egg, aka baby human being. People don't have the right not to be involved in/purchase the disposal of a living human organism, if they don't want to be? Because it's early in the process, you decided they should be okay with it?

Fascinating.

Condoms don't dispose of fertilized eggs. Clearly, the moderate route is to FORCE people to pay for condoms for others. Because they're SO expensive and we could never afford them without involving the federal government. I'm becoming a good socialist.

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I implied that I generally oppose the birth control mandate. However, the exception is when the contraceptive serves another valid medical purpose. While I agree that religious organizations should be exempt, it's despicable to grant non-religious organizations conscientious objector status to deny those who need it for valid medical reasons. Also, this logic would mean that employers could practice discrimination by arguing that their conscience is opposed to women working.

The freedom of conscience is important. But since it can be easily abused and used to justify the suffering of others, it needs to be reasonably restricted.

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I don't think it's hard to draw a line between women demanding the right to work and people demanding not to be forced to pay for the killing of human life. tongue It's not even expensive.

If medical insurance wasn't so employer-based right now (fault of government, as are most problems with our medical/health insurance industries) it wouldn't be an issue. It's not hard to select a health insurance provider that offers contraception coverage for any reason, and obviously demand for it would result in companies competing to offer it for less.

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Still can't believe White Americans are allowing themselves to be ethnicly cleansed by millions of border hopping Latinos. Must be my crazy old world mindset, but it looks like the Barbarian migrations are back in full swing.

Je maintiendrai

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Latinos are technically "white" in America tongue

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Well, birth control pills can cost up to $50.00 a month, which isn't affordable if you are poor. If the woman needs the birth control pill for valid medical reasons, it seems detestable to me to say that her employer's right to exercise their conscience is more important than her health. Moreover, it also seems that there is a compelling state interest to value the health of women above the conscience of employers. On the other hand, I believe otherwise when birth control pills are used for strictly contraceptive purposes. Heck, even beggars can save up money for condoms.

But I agree, medical insurance should not be so employer based to begin with.