Re: A conversation with Key: Why your ideas are a failure.
This is my retort to Key. It is about equal outcomes, something he nonstop harps on.
First let me talk some information, generically, that he has posted here himself. He got a degree but is/was a dishwasher since he could not find a job in his field. His mother (or was it sister?) lost her house in the bubble crash.
That information is important for the final arguement against Key. For mods it is very generic and is like saying Flint was homeless and now drives truck, and is running for office. All of this is on forum, is known, and is not too specific.
Key lives in a fantasy world (my opinion) where he thinks all outcomes should be rigged for positive outcomes. I also believe that he fully endorses Barack Obama's "You did not build this" comment.
Not only will I break this illusion, I will burst the Barack Obama falsehood as well.
Equal outcomes is a fantasy of leftists. Deeply held it is the belief you can make changes in peoples lives to bring them 'up' to an outcome equal to a 'luckier' person. They also generally believe in bringing 'down' the rich to help with this 'equality'.
Key hear this now. Equal Outcomes is impossible.
This is easily proven by using regions. N. Dakota is farms and oil, Florida is aligators and bugs, Arizona is hot and desert, California beaches and farms, Utah a Salt Lake and mountains. Of course I am being generic in the extreme... but it points out differences of regions.
Then there is location inside a region. Small town versus city, north side versus industrial region...
There is differences in desired diet.... Atkins, Veg, Fish, Beef....
There is differences in intelligence, wisdom, charisma, strength, endurance, attractiveness, and so forth.
True equality is impossible.
Now for liberals, including Key I suspect, this is where they protest (while holding in their hearts there must be a way for true equality to still happen) that they did not mean true equality, just a reasonable equality. Or something equivalent.
They still believe in handing degrees to 'less fortunates', bailouts to 'poor home owners' (who bought the home hoping to flip it for higher later), to 'assistance' for those struggling with children and insufficient pay.
To that portion here is my retort.
My ex-wife worked at a call center part time. She could have worked full time, could have gotten enough pay to make her be able to pay the bills and raise her son as a working parent. She wanted it differently though. She had gotten on Section 8 and wanted to stay on Section 8. So she kept her income low on purpose.
She loved having less work and the same resulting housing, food, and bills covered.
I worked security at public housing. There were brand new Ford trucks in the parking lot owned by tenants who paid $50 a month in rent.
Key there is people who will cheat anything that is created if they can find a way. Thus all long term assistance is bad. Even Social Security Disability is abused frequently.
Next lets talk about scholarships, and 'equality based education'. This was tried in Kansas. An amount of money unheard of in education was spent. Yet they never tackled the true problems and no grades changed. Those problems were bad teachers, bad administrators, bad school boards, and bad parents.
Even amongst colleges there is inequality. Harvard degrees are worth more than Clackamas Community College degrees. Not all degrees are worth the same either.
The free market says there is to many artists, social studies, musicians, and actors to support at a reasonable expense. Heck if I had the talent I would love to be a musician, called to work at most 2 hours a day and get middle class income... but that is not reasonable for most banjo players to expect.
I took drama and played in 3 plays. Should I be subsidized for my interest in the performing arts? Or should I try on my own time and dime to find that perfect gig?
Key equality of outcome is impossible.
Equal opportunity, where each can strive (or not) on their own is the best we can hope for.
I personally am striving hard. I used to be shy. No longer... I made my interest known, and now Tia and I are dating. I used to be poor, but now I work a difficult job and I get great pay. I used to cry at the unfairness of the world but now I tackle the problems and throw them to the ground.
But you are living a different world Key. You want to live in your small town and have your cake as well. You want your mom to have a house provided by others, since she clearly cannot support one herself.
Jobs not available there? Why not try elsewhere? You know you could be a truck driver like me. Or since you are on the coast you could become a fisherman. Why should you have the luxury of your coastal town and be supported by others?
Why are you so selfish as to think you are owed things instead of thinking that you should go out and EARN those things? Why not change your attitude about life and instead of crying how unfair it is... why not cut your own path to success?
You made yourself! You did it, not me, not Bill Gates, not Steve Jobs, not President Obama (Or Bush, or Clinton).
Do you think George Foreman was able to make a great business because of the Government? His competitors had the same access... why did some fail and he succeed?
Do you honestly believe every computer company succeeded because of Government? Was the fall of Commodore because of Government then?
Obama is wrong, you are wrong, all liberals are wrong in this.
No one should help you except yourself and maybe family. Giving should be voluntary, not compulsory. I should not work 60 hours plus a week so someone else can decide you can get the same pay for 10 hours a week.
Get off your arse and get a real life, a real job, a real attitude adjustment.
Kemp currently not being responded to until he makes CONCISE posts.
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